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    NYT Debunks Three Media Conspiracy Theories With Trump’s Tax Returns

    NYT Debunks Three Media Conspiracy Theories With Trump’s Tax Returns

    Plus a dose of reality when it comes to real estate investing.
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    I don’t even know where to begin with the story on President Donald Trump’s tax returns in The New York Times. There is so much wrong with it that someone like me, with no accounting or tax background, can figure out the article is worthless.

    But how about the three media conspiracy theories debunked by the story?


    Trump has said for a while that he did not want to release his tax returns due to an audit by the IRS.

    Did he lie? Nope. The NYT admitted that Trump is in “a decade-long audit battle with the Internal Revenue Service over the legitimacy of a $72.9 million tax refund that he claimed, and received, after declaring huge losses.”

    Sure he could have released it. Trump said he could not, but it’s not against the law to release tax returns during an audit.

    But the fact is Trump did not lie when he said the IRS was auditing him (emphasis mine):

    And while the records do not lay out all the details of the audit, they match his lawyers’ statement during the 2016 campaign that audits of his returns for 2009 and subsequent years remained open, and involved “transactions or activities that were also reported on returns for 2008 and earlier.”

    Michael Cohen

    The media and the left wanted the tax returns because they were certain it would have information about a $130,000 payment to porn star Stormy Daniels. Nope:

    The data contains no new revelations about the $130,000 payment to Stephanie Clifford, the actress who performs as Stormy Daniels — a focus of the Manhattan district attorney’s subpoena for Mr. Trump’s tax returns and other financial information. Mr. Trump has acknowledged reimbursing his former lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, who made the payoff, but the materials obtained by The Times did not include any itemized payments to Mr. Cohen. The amount, however, could have been improperly included in legal fees written off as a business expense, which are not required to be itemized on tax returns.

    Russia, Russia, Russia

    The tax returns did not have any new financial connections to Russia:

    No subject has provoked more intense speculation about Mr. Trump’s finances than his connection to Russia. While the tax records revealed no previously unknown financial connection — and, for the most part, lack the specificity required to do so — they did shed new light on the money behind the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow, a subject of enduring intrigue because of subsequent investigations into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election.

    But overall, the NYT proves one thing: Trump has great accountants who make sure he takes advantage of all the deductibles available to him.

    Don’t like it? Get a better accountant. Still not satisfied? The repeal the 16th amendment and get rid of taxes.

    Real Estate

    Let’s look at the other aspect of this supposed jaw-dropping report.

    Stop conflating cash income and taxable income!!

    I spoke to a friend in finance and he also invests in real estate. From what he could tell in the story Trump more than likely took his salary or income and put it all back into his businesses.

    Plus, you have to know how real estate investing works. You want the returns to show depreciation. Again, I am no expert, but my friend has experience.

    Depreciation is a deduction for income tax purposes, but it is a non-cash item. You do not pay out of pocket. It is a non-cash expense. It’s designed to show the true value of the asset because it wears down, whether it’s real estate, machinery, etc.

    Accountants have to account for the lower value. Real estate investors generally welcome that and it’s honestly not a big deal.

    My friend gave me this example:

    Let’s say you own a building and it takes in $1000 a year in rental income. This is just for simplicity. But over the year I as landlord have to pay property taxes, insurance, utilities. Those are the basics. I have to send a check for those. Let’s say the total of those is $800 a year. So I make $200 a year in profit after I pay all expenses.

    So in my pocket I have $200 at the end of the year. So In April I give all this info to my accountant to do my personal taxes. He looks and sees I made the $200 but he has to account for the one year of depreciation in the value of the property.

    Let’s say the property depreciated by $300 during the year. So recording everything the depreciation is added to take expenses of $800 for a total of $1100 which means for tax purposes the property lost $100.

    I still have $200 in cash though but I reduced my tax liability.

    Because I show that the property lost money which offsets my taxes

    The depreciation reduces your tax liability. The property lost money so it offsets your taxes.

    The IRS only lets you offset a certain amount each year. However, you are allowed to carry over the loss until it’s used up.

    A few people have told me that they’ve seen people with millions in carryovers.

    But this is another reason why releasing tax returns is stupid and dumb. The returns tell you nothing. It does not tell a story. It does offer in-depth details.

    Trump, Jr., With the Mic Drop

    Donald Trump, Jr., reminded everyone that tax returns do not show anything significant about a business or your basis in life (emphasis mine):

    “Listen, it’s ridiculous, my father’s paid tens of millions of taxes,” he said. “If he does things in certain years where you get depreciation, where you get the write-off, where you get historical tax credits like we did when we took on the risk of building the Old Post Office in D.C., it’s the perfect example. That was literally a government contract. We bid against every hotel company in the world, historical tax credits that you use to offset tax payments for taking the risk to build that. That was done under the Obama administration. It literally took an act of Congress to get it done. So with that comes historical tax credits. That’s the reality. People don’t understand what goes into a business.”

    It doesn’t include property taxes, it doesn’t include payroll taxes, it doesn’t include real estate taxes, it doesn’t include so many of the things that he’s been paying taxes on forever, as he’s also putting thousands and thousands of people to work on an annual basis,” Trump continued. “But, of course, The New York Times does this, they put out a selective, you know, picture of all of these things the day before a debate to try to give someone like Joe Biden, you know, an attack line to come up with one or two catchy sound bites and that’s the game. We’ve seen it. We saw it two weeks ago with the debunked claim about the military. We’ve seen it for four years about the Russia hoax. If only they spent as much time looking for maybe, I don’t know, Hunter Biden’s tax returns and the Biden family issues, where Hunter’s taking money from a known associate of Vladimir Putin, $3.5 million and no one has any interest. Money that’s linked to human trafficking and prostitution rings in Eastern Europe. Think about that.”


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    Groundhog Day | September 28, 2020 at 7:03 pm

    The Left:”Trump is the worst businessman who ever lived – he lost billions!!!”

    The Left, in the same breath:”Trump just paid $750 in taxes!!!”

    You can’t make this stuff up…

      LibraryGryffon in reply to Groundhog Day. | September 28, 2020 at 7:12 pm

      Well, I seem to recall that the Left spent years screaming about how W was a total moron and the stupidest man ever to be president, while also shrieking about how he was an evil genius who could tell hurricanes where to make landfall.

      So I’d say, par for their course.

    Lefties don’t understand business.

    didn’t hear any loud out cry when it was revealed a few years ago that GE did not pay any taxes, no complains when companies like Apple keep there profits offshore to avoid US taxes. I don’t care if Pres Trump paid any taxes, by the way where are Biden’s tax returns he said he released 20 years of them, did he pull a Kerry and released them to friendlys.

    sestamibi | September 29, 2020 at 7:02 pm

    What all those ignorant critics don’t know is that while the annual real estate depreciation allowance may be a great tax benefit, they get you when you sell the property because you have to pay cap gains tax on the gain from the depreciated value of the property.

    This can be avoided if you do a Section 1031 (“Starker”) exchange for another property, much the equivalent of rolling over an IRA. In its 2017 tax reform, Congress eliminated these “like-kind exchanges” for all BUT real estate, which is understandable, especially for things like collectibles, but the principle on which the exchange provision was based over 100 years ago was that productive capital should remain productive.

    Hence, once can keep trading properties up and deferring cap gains tax indefinitely. God help us if idiots like Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon get their way. He wants to tax the gain on the value of an asset each year–whether or not the asset was sold!

    And by the way, the ignorance of the depreciation benefit is not found only on the Left. A couple of years ago Nicole Gelinas of the right-of-center City Journal took NYC Mayor Bill DeBlasio to task for doing the exact same thing. DeBlasio may be a disaster, but that’s not something for which he did anything wrong.

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