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    Biden Spits Out Usual Gun Control Narrative, Wants to Ban ‘Weapons of War’

    Biden Spits Out Usual Gun Control Narrative, Wants to Ban ‘Weapons of War’

    Can someone tell me where one could purchase a weapon of war?

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    Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden wants to ban “weapons of war” from civilians along with “assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.”

    Excuse me, Vice President. My AR-15, a modern sporting rifle (MSR), is not a weapon of war. Our soldiers would not fare well with AR-15s.

    Let me state first off that I am not a gun expert. I know the details of my revolver and my AR. I know why I want or need one.

    Vague terms are never good to hear. Weapons of war. Assault rifles. Can Biden provide specific details? Oh wait. I know he won’t because we all know deep down Biden and his cronies want to ban guns.

    What is an assault rifle? It’s not an AR-15. The AR stands for ArmaLite, Inc., which is the original manufacturer.

    The AR-15 we can buy, which I own, is not meant for war. It is semi-automatic and holds a .223 round. That means it’s a smaller cartridge and I shoot only one bullet when I pull the trigger.

    A few MSRs can fire a 5.56 round, but it is still a semi-automatic.

    But the fact is you CANNOT buy an automatic weapon without cutting a bunch of red tape. It is damn near impossible to purchase one.

    Also, do not tell me I do not need an AR-15. I need and want an AR-15.

    Many people do not know this, but I was born with massive head trauma after the doctor got careless with the forceps. My left side is handicapped. My left hand can be careless and obviously doesn’t work well.

    The AR-15 is light and I can basically use it with only my right hand. It has light recoil, too. It’s perfect for a female even without physical disabilities.

    Yes, I do like that it’s big and scary looking!

    Let’s talk about those high-capacity magazines. In 2018, Cato Institute wrote about why it’s an “empty case” to even restrict magazines:

    Magazine restrictions do not have appreciable effects on crime or violence. In an oft‐​cited study, Christopher Koper analyzed the effects of the 1994 Federal Assault Weapons Ban, which banned new magazines of more than 10 rounds but did little more than drive up the price of already‐​existing magazines. While presenting his findings at a Johns Hopkins summit on reducing gun violence in America, Koper was decidedly noncommittal on the ban’s utility.

    Plus there are about a billion magazines in circulation:

    With as many as a billion magazines in circulation, it would take immense and constitutionally dubious law‐​enforcement efforts to make even a dent in the extant “high‐​capacity” magazine population. Moreover, any potential reduction in lethality or violent crime by magazine restrictions would occur only in extremely rare circumstances — namely, in shootings involving the discharge of more than 10 rounds.

    Cato issues the mic drop:

    Those observations underline a core issue: when a motivated murderer wants to cause a lot of damage, he plans accordingly. Be it a handgun, a revolver with a speed‐​loader, or a self‐​loading rifle, what really matters for sustaining a high rate of fire is having multiple magazines, not the capacity of those magazines.

    I do not know why it is so hard to understand that a criminal will always find his or her weapon. The person will plan and use whatever he or she can whether it’s a knife or a pistol to inflict as much damage as possible.

    But these people are so hooked on these propaganda terms. It’s like they know people won’t do their own research and just take whatever the politicians feed them.

    Leave my guns alone. Leave my 2nd amendment alone.

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    Just stop. This has all become so ridiculous that there’s no reason to even comment on things anymore.


     
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    buckeyeminuteman | September 15, 2020 at 1:42 am

    Actually, besides the 3-round burst option, my AR-15 at home and the M4 I have been carrying these past 6 months are exactly the same. Besides the trigger assembly, everything is interchangable. They fire the same rounds even.

    However, still not going to be giving up my weapon of war. Never!


       
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      Arminius in reply to buckeyeminuteman. | September 16, 2020 at 8:02 am

      Your AR and M-16 may have a lot more differences than a 2 vs. 3 position selector switch. There could be quite a few more differences that aren’t immediately apparent but are significant.

      The rounds may physically interchange but if your AR is chambered with commercial .223 dimensions it isn’t safe to fire 5.56 NATO ammo in it. To know for sure on a commercial AR check down by the muzzle or near the chamber. If it says .223 then that’s what you have. Things aren’t so certain if it says 5.56. Unless you have a Colt, which always has a proper MILSPEC chamber since they had the original military contract to manufacture rifles for U.S. armed forces I recommend casting the chamber just to make sure it is MILSPEC and therefore safe with with all 5.56 surplus ammo.

      https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/barrel-tools/barrel-chamfering-accessories/cerrosafe-chamber-casting-alloy-prod384.aspx

      It’s easy to do and not time consuming. I’m a handloader so I always cast my chambers so I know what I’m dealing with. Have you ever bought .416 Rigby ammo? Since I roll my own I haven’t checked prices for a while. It’s gone down from $220 per box of 20 to $169. Think I’ll still roll my own. Besides I’ve got a lifetime supply of Norma cases, Hornady bullets for practice, and Barnes bullets for serious work. I’ve got stuff in my safe for dealing with anything from Antifa to those giant worms in that movie Tremors.

      The MILSEC 5.56 chamber is larger so the rifle will still function when it starts to get dirty such as with carbon fouling (it is after all a direct gas impingement system). Also the leade (or freebore) is longer than that of a commercial .223 chamber (the leade is the distance between the cartridge mouth and where the rifling engages the bullet). The leade is always larger than the groove diameter of the barrel. The leade tapers down to the groove diameter at a relatively shallow angle.

      The commercial .223 chamber dimensions are much tighter, the leade is shorter, and steeper than the MILSPEC chamber.

      The difference is the tighter chamber dimensions, shorter leade, and steeper angle has greater accuracy potential. The trade-off is it creates higher chamber pressures. And there’s the potential danger.

      The 5.56×45 is loaded with a powder charge that already creates significantly higher chamber pressures than the .223 Remington. In a MILSPEC 5.56 NATO chamber it creates 62,400 psi. If you fire it in a .223 chamber it creates upward of 70,000 psi, more on a hot day with your rifle and ammo baking in the sun, and not all rifles will take it.

      The .223 creates between 52,000 and 55,000 psi on the other hand. Using 5.56 ammo in a MILSPEC chamber and .223 ammo in a SAMMI spec chamber means both rifles will get the same muzzle velocity with a 62 grain bullet. Some people find that odd, but it’s no mystery. Despite being loaded to lower pressure the tighter chamber and shorter, steeper leade creates a tighter seal behind the bullet. Despite being loaded to a higher pressure, the looser chamber and longer, shallower lead means not quite as much of the propellant charge is pushing on the base of the bullet.

      The bottom line is it’s safe to fire both 5.56 NATO ammo and .223 Remington ammo in a MILSPEC chamber but though it will physically fit into the commercial chamber it is not safe to fire 5.56 NATO ammo in a rifle chambered for the .223.

      Other differences will, on most ARs, concern the barrel, Bolt Carrier Group (BCG), and lower reciever. Most commercial ARs have barrels made from 4150 grade steel. Which is fine. When discussing carbon steel the third digit indicates the percent of carbon in the steel, so for instance 4140 steel has .4 percent carbon. It’s an excellent steel and in a bolt action hunting rifle will last three lifetimes of hard use, forever if you and your heirs take care of it with normal use. The military has long used 4150 grade steel. Just that additional .1 percent carbon makes the steel much harder and tougher. It is much harder to work, and it costs twice as much as 4140 steel but the military figured it was worth it.

      But the M-16 uses steel even tougher. It has an even higher carbon content and the chemical composition is held to extremely tight specifications. It’s still 4150 steel, but not all 4150 steels are MILSPEC. commercial 4150 steel can (not usually, but it can) have as little as .41 percent carbon. To meet the MIL-B-11595E the alloy would have to fall within a range of .48-.55. If impurities in the alloy such as copper or aluminum exceed .35 or .40 percent it will be rejected by military inspectors. But it is fine in commercial 4150.

      There’s nothing wrong with commercial 4150 steel. But the MIL-B-11595E steel has to be better to handle burst or automatic fire. Every barrel on an M-16/M-4 undergoes a High Pressure Test (HPT) followed by Magnetic Particle Inspection (MPI). The HPT involves firing an over pressure proof round. If it cracks under pressure you’d never see it with the naked eye so MPI magnetizes the barrel, then the magnetic flux leaks through the object. Particles, basically luminescent iron shavings, are attracted to the tiny cracks and the barrel is rejected.

      Colt, Noveske, Daniel Defense and Lewis Machine & Tool (LMT) are the only barrel makers to test all their barrels. All other manufacturers spot check a specified number of barrels in each batch. And only Colt, LMT, Bravo Company and Sabre use barrels made of MIL-B-11595-E steel.

      Each BCG on an M-16/M-4 also goes through the HPT/MPI process. As a prerequisite to prepare the BCG for this it’s shot peened, which hardens the surface of the metal. Very few commercial AR manufacturers bother with this. The gas key is the final component in the direct gas impingement system. gas is syphoned out of the barrel at the pinned front sight base and directed back toward by the gas tube. The propellent gasses enter a chamber in the gas key, which drives the bolt back, ejecting the fired case. The recoil spring drives the BCG forward, stripping the top round off the magazine and into the chamber, and the bolt rotates and locks the bolt into a matching keyway in the chamber. The gas key is a critical component as any leak in the gas system will cause jamming and other malfunctions. On both MILSPEC M-16s/M-4s and commercial ARs the gas key is attached to the BCG by two hex head screws. The screws on all MILSPEC rifles are pinned in place so they don’t back out while slamming back and forth. Most commercial manufacturers don’t bother with this step as their rifles will never fire automatically.

      I won’t spend too much time on the lower receiver. From my perspective the only significant feature of a MILSPEC lower receiver, close to MILSPEC really as no commercial lower receiver will accept the automatic fire control group and sear, is that the lower uses .154 inch pins to hold the trigger group in place. Allowing you to easily upgrade to essentially target-grade aftermarket triggers from Timney, Jewel, etc.

      Is there a point? Yeah, bump stocks. Typically bump stock equipped ARs have a lower rate of fire than an M-16/M-4. 4-500 rounds per minute vs. 7-900. Even at that lower ROF most AR-15 pattern rifles aren’t built for the abuse. That’s why I spent all that time pointing out the invisible but real differences between an AR for the civilian market and a MILSPEC weapon. That is, the differences are invisible until your rifle starts melting and jamming. In case anyone is interested only Colt builds ARs that have MILSPEC barrels, BCGs, and lower receivers. I used to think that Colts were so much more expensive simply because of the brand name. That isn’t it. I mean, testing every barrel? Staking the hex keys that hold the gas key on the BCG? That’s an expensive way to build rifles.

      As far as bump stocks go I wouldn’t ban them. I’d also never buy one. You can get the same affect by looping a large rubber band behind the trigger and then around the magazine well. If you just want to waste ammo you could just hook your thumb through a belt loop and use the same trigger technique. But I like hitting what I am at. And in addition to all the other trouble they cause they make you less accurate.

    They better not take my poncho liner. That’s covered under the Second Amendment, right?


     
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    Richard Aubrey | September 15, 2020 at 11:22 am

    Presuming the grabbers manage to fool the chumps about the AR and similar weapons…..
    What’s next. Howls of shock and outrage when they discover that the M14 ball ammo has almost TWICE THE KILLING POWER of the M16 (energy) and all ammo in the range–’06, 308, 8mm, 7.62/51 and dozens of others must be banned IMMEDIATELY! HORROR!!!


     
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    texansamurai | September 15, 2020 at 4:23 pm

    biden is a doddering old slob–in a streetfight, without his bodyguards, he wouldn’t last more than a few seconds

    among most of our neighbors, am somewhat of a contrarion regards 5.56–just never have believed in the round’s knockdown power–at close range(under 25 metres or so)would rate the 5.56’s performance as adequate at best

    .30 cal and larger is just a whole other world as far as power(against humans especially)and if have to go outdoors(especially at night)will not be taking a 5.56

    guess each to their own–every day biden reminds me more and more of lizzie–so corrupt with such an overwhelming lust for power, he’s willing to say/do/promise anything to gain it–a despicable trait in ANYONE, especially if they aspire to be the leader of the free world


       
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      drednicolson in reply to texansamurai. | September 15, 2020 at 8:42 pm

      Most 5.56 barrels made nowadays are 1:7 or 1:8 rifling (meaning 1 full rotation over X barrel inches traveled). Vietnam-era barrels were usually 1:14, so they put roughly half as much spin on the bullet. A 5.56 round fired from the latter will stop spinning and start tumbling much sooner than the former.

      An impact while spinning has more accuracy and penetration. An impact while tumbling has more stopping power and wound potential.


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