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    Trump: Dems rejected my generous offer because they “do not want to solve DACA, only use it!”

    Trump: Dems rejected my generous offer because they “do not want to solve DACA, only use it!”

    Trump is blessed with an opposition that makes him seem reasonable by comparison.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RPQTs65uNw

    A hot topic in the Legal Insurrection comment sections has been whether the insane/deranged/lunatic/vicious/malicious reaction of Democrats and the open-borders left to Trump’s generous DACA/Dreamer amnesty framework was part of some three-dimensional chess play by Trump.

    In that scenario, Trump offered what he knew never would be accepted in order to make himself look good and his opposition unreasonable: Amnesty for 1.8 million ‘Dreamers’ plus immediate family reunification, in exchange for funding of border security and The Wall, and an end to extended family chain migration.

    The other view, which I share, is that the ‘Dreamer’ framework actually was what Trump wanted, but as has happened so many times before, he is blessed with an insane/deranged/lunatic/vicious/malicious opposition which makes him seem reasonable by comparison.

    See the comment sections for these posts for some of the reactions:

    Trump is claiming this morning on Twitter that it all was a three-dimensional chess play:

    I have offered DACA a wonderful deal, including a doubling in the number of recipients & a twelve year pathway to citizenship, for two reasons: (1) Because the Republicans want to fix a long time terrible problem. (2) To show that Democrats do not want to solve DACA, only use it!

    Democrats are not interested in Border Safety & Security or in the funding and rebuilding of our Military. They are only interested in Obstruction!

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/957462746060206080

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/957465263129219073

    Expect Trump, with a national audience for the State of the Union address next Tuesday to point out how generous he has been on immigration.

    Democrats are playing right into his hands by having the open-borders Kennedy spawn from Massachusetts give the official response to Trump’s SOTU address:

    And if that wasn’t enough, Rep. Maxine Water is giving an unofficial response on BET TV. Expect it to go something like this:

    Like I said, Trump is blessed with an insane/deranged/lunatic/vicious/malicious opposition which makes him seem reasonable by comparison.

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    Wasted effort … the problem of the “Dreamers” can not be resolved. As long as there is immigration there will be illegal immigration … and there will always be a “Dreamer” class of immigrants … and we’re never going to enforce our immigration laws strictly enough and consistently enough to minimize it. For the current batch … you either do nothing, deport them or give them a path to citizen ship … but once this batch is dealt with … another batch will replace it.

      The ““Dreamer” class of immigrants” is a leftist concoction and a plan to dilute the American vote.

      Tough love is in order: make it hard to stay – make them have a stake in the American game. Or let them to go maxine waters/ruth ginsberg alternative to the SOU address party and we can round them up there.


         
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        PODKen in reply to TheFineReport.com. | January 28, 2018 at 5:34 pm

        Unsolvable.

        Doesn’t matter which side concocted which plan.

        When it comes to the “Dreamer” class … the public and leadership do not have the stomach for “tough love”. It’s a pipe dream. The country is not going to stand for any sort of mass deportation of immigrants that were brought in by their parents as children. Nor is the country going to stand for relentless raids or other measures. The more families are broken up the more intransigent the country will become.

        About the best you can do is to keep the “Dreamer” class on its toes … deport a few every now and then, get tough on verification with employers, get tough with colleges etc. We’ll have to live with half measures.

        The problem will remain unsolvable because we haven’t got the stomach to enforce our immigration laws to the degree necessary to minimize the problem.


         
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        PODKen in reply to TheFineReport.com. | January 28, 2018 at 5:51 pm

        BTW … re. … “make it hard to stay – make them have a stake in the American game.” That statement sounds contradictory.

        What can be done to make it hard for them to stay … yet makes them have a stake in the American game?

        The Dreamers already have a stake in the game … what they don’t have is legality. If you want them to truly have a stake in the American game … then your only option is to legalize their presence.


       
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      Mac45 in reply to PODKen. | January 28, 2018 at 11:00 pm

      There is NO problem with the Dreamers. They are here in violation of the law and can simply be deported. when the public is asked about strict immigration enforcement it says deport. When they are asked about granting amnesty to any class of illegals, they say deport. When they are asked if Dreamers’ families should be included in any amnesty, they say deport. Members of Congress have accurate polling on this subject and have had for the last 30 years. That is why they refuse to vote for any kind of amnesty.

      Politicians want massive amounts of illegals in this country and they want them to be able to vote. Businesses want large numbers of illegals to fill out their work forces with people who will work for peanuts and who can not demand better wages, working conditions or complain if they do not get them. Who doesn’t want illegals in the country? The majority of the populous who has to compete with them for jobs and benefits.

      “When it comes to the “Dreamer” class … the public and leadership do not have the stomach for “tough love”. It’s a pipe dream. The country is not going to stand for any sort of mass deportation of immigrants that were brought in by their parents as children. Nor is the country going to stand for relentless raids or other measures. The more families are broken up the more intransigent the country will become.” – This is ridiculous. The public could care less if Juan, his wife Ramona, their children Felice and Juan jr. have to leave the country or not. The elite media and its masters do.BBut, nobody with two working brain cells believes the media anymore. They keep claiming that because Juan is being deported after living the US for 15 years his family is being broken up. Lies. Why can’t his family go with him, or at least follow him to Mexico? US citizens go to Mexico all the time? But, they are barred from going to Mexico with the Paterfamilias? Yeah, sure. Do not be fooled by the misinformation about how the American public feels about illegal immigration. Only the elites, some business owners and the media like it. The rest of the common people are against it or, at least, ambivalent to whether it should be eliminated. Only a very small minority of special interests want illegal immigration and an even smaller minority wants amnesty for any illegals, including Dreamers. It did not work out well for the country in 1986 and it will not workout well for it today.


     
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    Paul In Sweden | January 28, 2018 at 8:39 pm

    The other view, which I share, is that the ‘Dreamer’ framework actually was what Trump wanted, but as has happened so many times before, he is blessed with an insane/deranged/lunatic/vicious/malicious opposition which makes him seem reasonable by comparison.-William A. Jacobson

    Professor, That is plausible and a scenario that has a lot of people concerned. My thoughts are that if POTUS Trump wanted this DACA illegal aliens amnesty ‘DEAL’ he would have offered a ‘Clean DACA DEAL’ as demanded by the open borders Democrats.

    Why spike the legislation with all the poison pills?

    Everyone wants to be magnanimous and be viewed as Santa Claus but mid-terms are almost around the corner. I cannot see this Trump offer as being genuine.


     
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    tom_swift | January 28, 2018 at 10:48 pm

    The other view, which I share, is that the ‘Dreamer’ framework actually was what Trump wanted

    But why? It makes no sense. What does it gain him? Trump gets nothing from a bunch of legalized illegals. And he certainly won’t get the D’rats suddenly thinking he’s a great guy. There’s nothing in it for him.

    The D’rats need it. They need the votes. This is not a mere detail, or something “nice to have”—it’s vital to the future of the D’rat Party. But I seriously doubt that Trump considers that a good reason to give it to them.


     
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    Milhouse | January 29, 2018 at 3:04 pm

    Trump is blessed with an opposition that makes him seem reasonable by comparison.

    I’m still a NeverTrumper, but this sums up my feelings exactly. Churchill said democracy was the worst form of government except for all the others that have ever been tried. Trump seems to be the worst possible president except for every single one of his current opponents.


       
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      Barry in reply to Milhouse. | January 30, 2018 at 2:03 am

      “Trump seems to be the worst possible president…”

      Blinders, apparently.

      Remember when you were complaining that you’d believe the embassy move meant something only when they moved it to J.?

      Good times.


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