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    Even Republicans who hate Trump should defend him against Hillary’s ISIS lie

    Even Republicans who hate Trump should defend him against Hillary’s ISIS lie

    It’s not about Trump, it’s about how the media lets Democrats off the hook.

    https://twitter.com/TheFix/status/678688616931921921

    Hillary Clinton flat-out lied during the Democratic Debate on Saturday night.

    Throughout the debate, even when not the subject of a question, the candidates tried to out-do each other in condemning Donald Trump. It was a preview of a general election strategy.

    At one dramatic point, Hillary claimed that Trump’s comments about a temporary halt to Muslim immigration were being used in ISIS videos as a recruiting tool.

    It was not a claim made in isolation. It came as Clinton tried to explain her ISIS and refugee strategies in the face of an American public which strongly (though not majority) supports Trump’s position. This was Hillary’s opportunity to convince the public that people need not give in to fear.

    Rather than making the case, Hillary just made stuff up:

    There was a collective raising of the eyebrows even among those who don’t like Trump or Republicans. It’s one thing to bash Trump for what he says and does, it’s something else to just make stuff up on national television during a primary debate..

    Immediately, the fact checks started:

    https://twitter.com/GrasswireFacts/status/678395173143900160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

    Even Politifact, not known to lean Republican, called it false:

    https://twitter.com/PolitiFact/status/678425586373668864

    And so did The NY Times:

    NY Times Fact Check Hilary and Trump ISIS Debate

    WaPo also found no evidence:

    WaPo Hillary Trump ISIS Debate

    The best Hillary defenders in the media could do is admit the claims was false, but suggest it might be true in the future:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-isis_5676e303e4b0b958f65706c7?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067

    So far, so good. Hillary was so brazen in her claim that the mainstream fact checkers couldn’t help but include it in their fact checks.

    Sure, Trump is hitting back on it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAX8DDt0QGo

    But that’s likely where it will die in the media.

    There will be no round-the-clock, days-long media frenzy about Hillary making something up and lying the way there was when Carly Fiorina allegedly lied about Planned Parenthood videos. In the Fiorina case, strained arguments that Fioriana lied was all it took for the media to run with it for days.

    Defending Donald Trump against Hillary’s brazen lie is not a measure of support for Trump. It’s a measure of opposition to liberal media bias and attempts to put a thumb on the presidential political scale by letting Democrat lies drop.

    I made this point after the Gabby Giffords shooting, when liberal media rushed to blame an electoral map used by Sarah Palin. It was a meme created out of thin air by left-wing bloggers which then worked its way into the mainstream media. Shamefully, some Republicans, so blinded by hatred of Palin, not only refused to defend her, they jumped on the media bandwagon.

    I called the Palin map falsehood The Media’s Test Run To Re-Elect Barack Obama. So too, the speed with which the media will drop Hillary’s media lie is a test case of how the media will elect Hillary. It’s not just acts of media commission, but also omission.

    As a thought exercise, imagine that ISIS actually was using Trump in videos for recruiting. How would that media react? Certainly not with the near complete silence that greeted ISIS’s use of Bill Clinton’s sexual exploitations in a video:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/11/24/isis-video-bill-clinton-a-fornicator.html

    [ISIS Video: Bill Clinton a ‘Fornicator’ – via The Daily Beast]

    And of course, the media — with the exception of Fox News and Talk radio — has done everything it can to minimize the impact of Hillary falsely claiming a video about Mohammed caused the Benghazi attack.

    So defend Trump on Hillary’s ISIS lie and keep the issue alive even if you hate him. It’s not about Trump.

    UPDATE 12-21-2015: Hmmm:

    Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is making a rare defense of Donald Trump, rejecting Hillary Clinton’s claim that the businessman has become a recruiting tool for the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

    “Hillary Clinton suggesting that Donald Trump is being used in an ISIS recruiting video, man, talk about chutzpah,” Bush said Monday on Bill Bennett’s radio show, as highlighted by Buzzfeed News. “There’s no evidence of that. There’s no evidence of that at all.”

    The defense is unusual coming from Bush, who has been harshly critical of Trump during the Republican race, calling him the “chaos candidate” and saying he can’t “insult his way to the presidency.”

    Still, even as he backed Trump in the fight against Clinton, Bush emphasized that he doesn’t support Trump’s proposal to temporarily ban most Muslims from entering the United States.

    “This is how they play the game on the left,” Bush said. “They’re always blaming somebody. This case, I think, while I don’t agree with Trump’s idea, I don’t he has anything to do with being part of a recruiting video.”

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    Sammy Finkelman | December 22, 2015 at 1:17 pm

    Even Republicans who hate Trump should defend him against Hillary’s ISIS lie

    Is theer anybody who isn’t doing that?

    It also exemplifies a completely wrong idea of the way terrorist recruitment works.

    It is like the idea that bad treatment causes crime or violence (and conversely, if there is violenvce there must have bene some bad treatment, or at least a bad life, or at a minimum, poverty, even if is not the target’s fault)

    It only makes sense according to that kind of nonsense.

    The people running ISIS being practical people, they are not using, or trying to use, Donald Trump in the way Hillary Clinton would have us imagine.

    The most her campaign can get is that the name Donald Trump is occasionally tossed out in a long list of enemies of Islam.


     
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    Sammy Finkelman | December 22, 2015 at 1:18 pm

    This is also is the sort of “blame-America-first” thing popular among some Democrats.

    And in some ways resembles mirror-imaging, except that it wouldn’t motivate any of us to fight anyone.


     
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    Sammy Finkelman | December 22, 2015 at 1:20 pm

    You have to understand something: This accusation probably worked all right in the focus group. (Where, after all, nobody knows what the facts are)


     
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    Sammy Finkelman | December 22, 2015 at 5:17 pm

    <In the Fiorina case, strained arguments that Fiorina lied

    Actually, the strained argument was that she told the truth.

    She also tried to up Donald Trump when Donald Trump said in a debate that he had gotten to known Vladimir Putin very well because they’d been on the same episode of 60 Minutes!!!

    60 Minutes does not do any live interviews.

    Carly Fiorina apparently believed him and then tried to top him by saying she had also met Vladimir Putin, but it was a private meeting and not in a green room. It was in a green room, or something very similar. They were both scheduled to speak at a conference in Beijing in 2001.

    In that debate Marco Rubio said he hadn’t met Putin but he knew who he was very well.


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