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    Trump, Cruz Hit Rubio on Amnesty

    Trump, Cruz Hit Rubio on Amnesty

    Rubio’s involvement with the Gang of Eight at issue

    As the Republican presidential primary heats up, illegal immigration is again taking center stage.  While this is nothing new (as we know President Reagan attempted to address it in the ’80s, John McCain made it a priority in ’08, and on), the discussion has taken an interesting turn this election cycle.

    At issue, of course, are Obama’s executive amnesty, the recent influx of illegal immigrants (including huge numbers of children), the vast number of illegals currently living and working in the U.S., border security (such as it is), and a host of related issues including the burden of illegal immigration on tax payers in terms of jobs, health care, schooling, police and judicial involvement, and various entitlement costs.

    Marco Rubio’s involvement with the Gang of Eight, particularly his decision to work closely with Chuck Schumer, has not gone unnoticed by either the conservative base nor by the other presidential hopefuls.

    Donald Trump states that Rubio’s support for amnesty is “because he’s Hispanic.”


    This seems to be an off-the-cuff remark and not his campaign’s message; he also does not reject the idea of Rubio as his VP running mate should he win the GOP nomination.

    Another presidential candidate, Ted Cruz, stated that he literally laughed out loud at Rubio’s claim that his position on illegal immigration is the same as Cruz’s.

    Politico reports:

    [Cruz] told reporters after, “In the “Gang of Eight” fight Marco chose to stand with Chuck Schumer and to lead the fight tooth and nail for a massive amnesty plan. I chose to stand with [Alabama Sen.] Jeff Sessions and to lead the fight to defeat amnesty.”

    Cruz’s broadside was the latest in an escalating feud between the two senators that blew up in the wake of Tuesday’s fourth GOP debate, during which both had strong performances. Rubio over the past couple of days has tried to equate Cruz’s record on immigration which his own more relatively conciliatory one, while Cruz has pushed back hard on those efforts.

    “I have to admit that I laughed out loud at that,” Cruz said earlier Friday on Mike Gallagher’s radio show, in response to Rubio’s assertion on Thursday that they held similar views on immigration reform. He went on to add, “that statement was truly stunning. That’s like Obama saying my position is the same as his on Obamacare. That’s like Ayatollah Khamenei saying my position is the same as his on the Iranian nuclear deal.”

    Cruz, you may recall, led the fight against the Rubio-Schumer Gang of Eight amnesty bill.  Watch:

    And the bill was stopped in its tracks.

    [Featured image via Breitbart]


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    DuraMater | November 15, 2015 at 7:46 pm

    A substantial number of folks around Florida who know Marco also know that his record in elected office concerning anything related to immigration pre-dates his role in the Gang of Eight. We remember his actions and in-actions while serving as Speaker in Tallahassee (under the mentorship of Jeb Bush). We know the people with whom he associates both present and past, going back to his days on the City of West Miami Commission.

    I am in alliance with many of Mr. Trumps articulated positions. However, Mr. Trump’s comment in this video is characteristic of one whose grasp of the social-political dynamics at play here are not fully formed. It is assumed by many that the battle over immigration policy is driven strictly by ethnocentricity, an understandable, albeit shallow and overly simplistic explanation. The number of entities which reap material gain from legal (H1B, J1, F1) and illegal immigration are several and interrelated and a discussion of their respective roles would fill a separate thread. But the common factors are money and power. Surely Mr. Trump is astute enough to appreciate this and hopefully one of his advisers will enlighten him.

    OTOH, anyone, including Trump, who even considers putting Marco Rubio on their ticket will commit political suicide. Oh, I know there are plenty of folks who are easily duped by the glib talking politician who can check a minority box and has a sympathetic back story. For others all it takes is an “R” after a candidate’s name to garner their vote. But our country is reeling right now because of such misguided decisions by a gullible electorate with low expectations and standards.

    Far too many of the so-called Republican reps we sent to DC have become mere pawns of special interest groups and have shown themselves to be little more than one trick ponies, willing to engage in show votes (especially true of those from Miami area).

    So far, Sen. Cruz (and a handful of others)can assert that he has been willing to set himself apart from the herd. He has no background association with any in the open borders lobby groups that I’ve been able to find so far in my research. And he doesn’t present himself as primarily a hyphenated American, unlike Marco Rubio. I’d almost bet that if he were to start talking deportations and a suspension of H1B visas and closing the borders to anymore so-called refugees, his poll numbers would surpass Mr. Trump’s overnight.

    1 Cruz
    2 Trump

    The problem with amnesty is not an amnesty itself. Cruz knows that eventually some sort of amnesty will be not just necessary but desirable. The problem is that so long as the border lies wide open, any talk of amnesty, and especially any talk of a deadline for an eventual amnesty, motivates more people to get in over the line and under the wire. That’s why Cruz is right to refuse to discuss the matter at all until the border has been secured. Once that has been done, the next step is to identify as many as possible of the dangerous criminals (and perhaps even terrorists) who took advantage of the open border, and imprison or deport them. Only then can we have a reasonable and useful discussion about what to do with the remainder. Any attempt to preempt that discussion, or to talk about what position one may take in that future discussion, can only do harm.

      TX-rifraph in reply to Milhouse. | November 16, 2015 at 8:46 am

      Well stated — Thank you. Does one evaluate remodeling options while the house is still on fire? Is not “Containment” the first objective in a wildfire?

      Until the border is secure, nothing else matters in this arena. I think Cruz understands that priority.

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