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    Why is Fiorina still so low in the polls?

    Why is Fiorina still so low in the polls?

    And why is Trump so high?

    As a huge fan of the very articulate and forceful Carly Fiorina, I’ve been wondering why she continues to score very low in the polls for the Republican nomination. Here’s my attempt at an answer.

    I believe Carly Fiorina scores low not only because she lacks name recognition, but because she has never held elective public office and she lost the one race she entered. Even though she did well (considering it was in bluer-than-blue California,) she still lost.

    Also, although she can explain her firing from Hewlett-Packard in a way that doesn’t reflect poorly on her (see this and this), the firing still doesn’t sound to the casual listener like a success story.

    But far more importantly, Donald Trump—-who naturally gains more publicity from his statements and his candidacy because he is flamboyant and somewhat outrageous—has taken the spot Fiorina would otherwise occupy, that of “business-oriented political outsider who has never held public office.” He is far, far more well-known than Fiorina via his long self-promoting stint in the public eye, and is therefore a magnet for the many protest voters on the right. Supporting Trump is a twofer for anyone who’s angry at the establishment: he is not a member of the GOP establishment, and he really gets the goat of those who are.

    Trump (and the publicity in the MSM in reaction to him) has also managed to focus on illegal immigration, a topic that makes many Americans particularly furious and frustrated. That is probably the source of a great deal of his support, because he is one of only a few who are finally reflecting the sentiment of much of America, when few on either side of the aisle seem ready to do so.

    Is Trump sincere? Perhaps, but I happen to think his main motive is hearing the sweet sound of his own voice amplified and repeated. But others disagree, or they don’t care if he is or isn’t sincere. They like to hear him stick it to the Republicans who have played along with illegal immigration (as well as increases in legal immigration) all this time in order to placate their big business donors. Trump may be a big business guy himself, but he doesn’t depend on donor money to keep his campaign running, and that gives him a certain amount of satisfyingly blunt rhetorical freedom.

    [Neo-neocon is a writer with degrees in law and family therapy, who blogs at neo-neocon.]

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    neo-neocon | July 31, 2015 at 1:27 pm

    tom swift:

    I addressed you because I had noted that in your comment at 10:51 PM yesterday you had written:

    Trump has attracted attention because he’s the guy asking what is probably the most important political question today—how can a country or culture survive unlimited immigration?

    This has nothing at all to do with his qualifications for the Oval Office, or his suitability as a model American, or anything else. The question is the important thing. Even his answer isn’t terribly important; but somebody has to ask the damn question. And, for one reason or another, the other candidates don’t want to even think about it.

    Fiorina isn’t asking the important question. She’s attacking Hillary. That’s all well and fine, but Hillary isn’t exactly a challenging target. Such attacks don’t get to the heart of any of the perils looming up in America’s immediate future.

    Therefore I thought you might be interested in hearing the statements that Fiorina has actually made about illegal immigration, in case you hadn’t encountered them before.


       
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      JackRussellTerrierist in reply to neo-neocon. | August 1, 2015 at 1:50 pm

      Trump (his hotels) applies for visas to import cheap labor from Mexico and other places for his hotels. Those wages go back to the workers’ home countries. It doesn’t wash around in our economy. Trump pockets the savings on labor. I’m sure all the investors he dumped on in his 4 CH. 11 bankruptcies appreciate it. Of course, Trump does indeed “give back”, at least in the form of large campaign donations to ‘rats like his good friend, Hillary, and Rahm Emanuel and Chuck Schumer. Or is it just good ol’ pay-to-play?

      Anyway, he’s back-pedaled way back on immigration and has no coherent plan whatsoever. He was asked about it in a CNN interview and his response was about as coherent as Debbie Wasserman’s to Chris Matthews’ question as to what is the difference between a Democrat and a Socialist. He absolutely has no clue what he’s doing or saying, almost no self-control or impulse control, but because he banged on illegals awhile the stupid wing of the conservative movement can’t get enough of him.

      Anybody who would lower himself to suggest Oprah for a running mate or fight with the likes of Rosie O’Donnell in a public spectacle is just a whore for attention with no dignity or sense. Stupid me; I thought we wanted to restore decorum and dignity to the White House.

      So, yeah, but for this asshole Trump, Carly would be doing better because she wouldn’t be drowned out by him and stepped over by the media.

    The debates are meaningless hyperbole.
    Carly is a keeper.


     
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    Carol Herman | July 31, 2015 at 10:39 pm

    Don’t previous losses count? Fiorina ran for Barbara Boxer’s seat. Barbara Boxer got re-elected. Why is the media allowed to choose the candidates? And, then? Forgets to discuss the history.


       
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      Barry in reply to Carol Herman. | August 1, 2015 at 12:59 pm

      “Don’t previous losses count?”

      For what? Do we really need to provide you with a history lesson on the number of politicians that lost elections before winning?


       
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      JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Carol Herman. | August 1, 2015 at 1:31 pm

      CA has not elected a ‘pub to the U.S. Senate since 1988. That Fiorina only lost 55-45 is actually not a bad showing. Boxer has always been the environazi candidate, and they rule the state with an iron fist. They have so much money it’s staggering, and Boxer always gets astonishing amounts of money from them and the rest of the very wealthy CA Left.

      Instead of denigrating her for losing, she should be congratulated for having the stones to even take a run at it in that state. She’s got moxy and she’s got knowledge. She’s a good candidate. She just needs a little more flash, even though that doesn’t mean anything to sensible people. Nevertheless it sells, and it’s needed in such a large field of candidates.

      I wish Santorum, Huckabee, Pataki, Gilmore and a half-dozen more would just go away, including Bush, Trump and Paul. That would still leave a big field with a wide variety of backgrounds, talents and messages, but it’s doable. 17 candidates is a nightmare.


     
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    JackRussellTerrierist | August 1, 2015 at 1:18 pm

    Sheesh, I thought this thread was going to be about Carly Fiorina and her lackluster polls. Silly me.

    There are three reasons Fiorina isn’t doing well. One is bogus polling. The second is her lack of charisma. In today’s age of entertainment superficiality, you have to have some spark and pizazz to get heard. That’s why a POS like Trump gets all the attention while other good candidates are left out in the cold. The third is that there are just too many candidates.

    She’s not my first choice, but she’s far from my last choice, and I’d support her. I think she’d do a pretty good job.


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