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    Supreme Court allows Wisconsin Voter I.D. law to stand

    Supreme Court allows Wisconsin Voter I.D. law to stand

    Another notch for Scott Walker

    The Supreme Court today refused to accept for review a case challenging the Wisconsin Voter I.D. law.

    The case, Frank v. Walker, was on a long list of cases as to which petitions for certiorari were denied without explanation.

    Supreme Court Wisconsin Voter ID Cert Denied

    In early October, 2014, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the Voter I.D. law, as we reported at the time:

    The 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that Wisconsin’s new voter ID laws are constitutional, meaning that those heading to the polls in November will need to show ID before casting a vote….

    Last month, the same panel of the 7th Circuit issued a short Order vacating the district court injunction staying enforcement of the law, and instead held that the voter ID laws would indeed be in effect for this November’s election. The court indicated that a full decision on the merits would be forthcoming.

    Progressive activists in Wisconsin and across the country had a meltdown following the ruling

    And they are not taking it well this time, either, via HuffPo:

    “The Supreme Court’s decision is a huge step backward for our democracy,” Advancement Project Co-Director Penda D. Hair said in a statement Monday. “The 300,000 registered Wisconsin voters who lack the limited forms of photo ID needed to vote in Wisconsin — disproportionately African Americans and Latinos — deserve to have their voices heard in our political process. The values enshrined in our Constitution, and protected in the Voting Rights Act, are undermined when burdensome laws like photo ID requirements make the ballot box inaccessible to any eligible voters. Our elections should always be free, fair and accessible to all citizens. Under Wisconsin’s restrictive photo ID law, they simply are not.”

    Who wins here?

    In addition to voters who now can have more trust in the integrity of the system, the winner is Scott Walker, who once again has defeated the opposition against all odds.


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    Sammy Finkelman | March 23, 2015 at 5:44 pm

    Wiith absentee ballots where ballots are mailed in (not early voting, where somebody has to show up in person somewhere) fraud is very easy if anyone gets ahold of the ballot, or who goes to nursing home lets say and just gets people to sign filled out ballots.

    And dead people can vote.

    In 1998, when theer was a recount of the Attorney General’s race in nw York, many absentee votes were found to have been cast by dead people (probably family members of the people who died, who kept on receiving, and filling out, the absentee ballots)

      randian in reply to Sammy Finkelman. | March 23, 2015 at 6:02 pm

      Fraud is even easier if you’re willing to destroy ballots. Take a bunch of absentee ballots and replace them with fraudulent duplicates. It’s not as if the voter can individually verify a ballot after it has been counted to make sure that didn’t happen. Then there’s the Christine Gregoire plan, where you keep finding boxes of “missing” ballots under your mattress (so to speak) until you find enough to win the election on a recount.

    Sammy Finkelman | March 23, 2015 at 6:34 pm

    Washington State does not have in person voting at all now – only absentee (mail-in) ballots.

    (In 2004, 68% of all votes in Washington State were cast by mail)

    Only one county in Washington offered in-person voting in 2010 and the entire state will be mail-only in 2012.

    Note that they had to find extra ballots, because most of the ballots were counted right away.

    The fewer mail in ballots, the more difficult it is to add ballots. If this is what was done, this worked also because one party had control of the election machinery.

    Sammy Finkelman | March 23, 2015 at 6:35 pm

    This is the official version of events: There may be room here for destroyed and later replaced ballots.,_2004


    Discovered ballots [edit]

    King County Council Chairman Larry Phillips was at a Democratic Party office in Seattle on Sunday December 12, reviewing a list of voters whose absentee votes had been rejected due to signature problems, when to his surprise he found his own name listed. Phillips said he was certain he had filled out and signed his ballot correctly, and asked the county election officials to investigate the discrepancy. They discovered that Phillips’ signature had somehow failed to be scanned into the election computer system after he submitted his request for an absentee ballot. Election workers claimed that they had received Phillips’ absentee ballot in the mail, but they could not find his signature in the computer system to compare to the one on the ballot envelope, so they mistakenly rejected the ballot instead of following the standard procedure of checking it against the signature of Phillips’ physical voter registration card that was on file. The discovery prompted King County Director of Elections Dean Logan to order his staff to search the computers to see if any other ballots had been incorrectly rejected.

    Logan announced on December 13 that 561 absentee ballots in the county had been wrongly rejected due to an administrative error.[13] The next day, workers retrieving voting machines from precinct storage found an additional 12 ballots, bringing the total to 572 newly discovered ballots. Logan admitted the lost ballots were an oversight on the part of his department, and insisted that the found ballots be counted. On December 15, the King County Canvassing Board voted 2-1 in favor of counting the discovered ballots.

    Upon examination of the discovered ballots, it was further discovered that, with the exception of two ballots, none of the ballots had been cast by voters whose surnames began with the letters A, B, or C.[14] There was a further search for more ballots, and on December 17, county workers discovered a tray in a warehouse with an additional 162 previously uncounted ballots.[14] All together, 723 uncounted or improperly rejected ballots were discovered in King County during the manual hand recount.

    Chairman of the Washington State Republican Party Chris Vance stated that he was “absolutely convinced that King County is trying to steal this election.” The National Rifle Association, which had endorsed Rossi, sent a mass e-mail on December 14 to its members asking for volunteers to go to King County in order to sit in on the county elections office and observe the recount….

    ….The Washington State Republican Party called into question the discrepancy between the list of voters casting ballots in King County (895,660) and the number of ballots reported in the final hand recount (899,199). They claimed that hundreds of votes, including votes by felons,[21] deceased voters,[22] and double voters,[22] were included in the canvass. As an explanation, election officials claimed that they had yet to finalize the list at the time, and argued that discrepancies in the two numbers are common and do not necessarily indicate fraud.[citation needed]..

    …Also on January 5, 2005, the Seattle Post-Intelligencer published an article investigating votes in King County apparently cast by dead people.[23] The PI uncovered eight cases of votes attributed to dead people; these included one administrative error, two ballots cast by the spouses of recently deceased voters (one who voted against Gregoire), one case of a husband apparently voting his dead wife’s ballot instead of his own, and a man who legally voted his absentee ballot and then died before election day. One dead woman was marked as having voted in person at the polls.[23]

      Ragspierre in reply to Sammy Finkelman. | March 23, 2015 at 9:10 pm

      See why I’m a little bit suspicious, “Sammy”…

      A minute separates these two posts.

      Now, I type in burst when I post, and its pretty fast. I also post abbreviated comments, pared down to a few words, sometimes a bit cryptic and with some typos.

      So I REALLY have some questions about your posts…whoever you are and however many you are…

        Sammy Finkelman in reply to Ragspierre. | March 23, 2015 at 10:03 pm

        I composed a very long post, a great part of it which consisted of a quote from a Wikipedia article, decidced it was too long, extracted the end of it and put it into the clipboard with Ctrl-X, and posted the beginning, then decided to post the rest of it too.

        Well, I reaally decided at the time I cut it down. I figured it worked better as separate posts.

        Barry in reply to Ragspierre. | March 23, 2015 at 11:26 pm

        “a little bit suspicious”

        LOL. a little bit. Sammy boy is a card carrying paid commie doing his best to destroy freedom and liberty. He’s not very good at it because like all these people he is a dumbass.

    Sammy Finkelman | March 23, 2015 at 6:42 pm

    I really don’t know much about the 2004 Washington State gubernatorial election, except for the general impression ir might have been stolen. But not how. Maybe somebody has wrritten about this somewhere in detail.

    Sammy Finkelman | March 23, 2015 at 6:53 pm

    Amy in Florida:

    Which state are you talking about where it’s actually harder to get a replacement ID than a replacement DL?

    New York!

    In New York, if you report your driver’s license lost or stolen anotehr one will be sent to you in the mail, but for a state ID, identification has to be presented all opover again.

      randian in reply to Sammy Finkelman. | March 23, 2015 at 6:56 pm

      Maybe that’s why national media keeps reporting the lie that IDs are hard to get: so many of them are based in NY and are assuming how NY does things is how everybody must do things.

      Replacing a New York Driver’s License or ID

      Looks like the same process for both. Except the replacement ID is cheaper.

        Barry in reply to Amy in FL. | March 23, 2015 at 11:29 pm

        In other words, Sammy boy is just making shit up.

        Sammy Finkelman in reply to Amy in FL. | March 23, 2015 at 11:53 pm

        Re: It not being as easy to replace a New York State ID as a driver’s license:

        I remember reading something like that in a newspaper, but cannot find it or anything like it. I know I read something.
        I actually suspected they might have changed that because now they can be renewed online, but I can’t find anything.

        It seems like in every state (at least every state I checked) the process is the same for both. But sometimes it is not easy in either case.

        In the meantime, I found out that:

        In New Jersey, it isn’t easy in either the case of a state ID or that of a driver’s license!

        Your New Jersey ID card can be replaced in person for $11. You cannot replace your NJ ID card online or by mail.

        To get a replacement NJ ID, visit your local NJ MVC office and:

        Bring proof of your identity and address. (See the “Apply for a NJ ID Card” section above for required documents.)
        Complete an Application for Driver’s License (form BA-208), which you can get at the NJ MVC office.

        Pay the $11 replacement fee.

        The same thing goes for a New Jersey driver’s license:

        I am not sure you can go by It almost could sound like you need to bring the whole 6 points only for a replacement driver’s license but not a replacement ID except
        the page for a driver’s license has a heading that goes:

        Apply for a Replacement NJ License or ID and mentions both
        an Application for Driver’s License (Form BA-208) and a Non-Driver ID Application (Form BA-207) The web page for a state ID mentions only the Application for Driver’s License (Form BA-208) !!

        In New Jersey, a person definitely needs to present the full six points to get a replacement of a lost or stolen driver’s license:

        There is apparently no procedure whatsoever to replace a lost non-driver ID, or it’s missing from their web site, so apparently someone must make a totally new application.

        In New York State:

        They can both be replaced online but only if they were not lost or stolen in a crime!!

        Lose your wallet or purse: you can do it online.

        Lose your wallet to a pickpocket or have your purse stolen: You must get form MV-78B from a police agency and bring it to a DMV office.

        (or you can avoid reporting the crime and lie about why you don’t have it any more.)

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