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    VIDEO: Police Chief Provides More Detail on Case of CA Woman Shot in Back

    VIDEO: Police Chief Provides More Detail on Case of CA Woman Shot in Back

    Claiming self defense when shooting woman running away in the back — good luck with that even in California.

    I just came across some brief TV news coverage with additional details on the case of 80-year-old CA native Tom Greer pursuing and shooting in the back 28-year-old Andrea Miller. We covered the case the other day, Pro-Tip: Shooting Fleeing Women in the Back is NOT Self-Defense.

    Miller and 26-year-old Gus Adams had invaded Greer’s home and began to ransack the residence. When confronted by Greer, they attacked him, breaking his collar bone.

    Long Beach Police Chief Jim McDonnell reports in a television interview (video embedded after break) that at that point Adams went to try to break into Greer’s safe, while Miller continued to assault Greer. They both Miller and Adams believed Greer to no longer be a threat and left him alone to continue to ransack his home.

    Greer, however, managed to retrieve a pistol and confront them in turn. As he began to fire at them inside the house, Miller and Adams flee with items stolen from Greer. Greer pursued them down an alley and fired at them again. Miller was struck, fell to the ground, and died at the scene.

    Greer  told local media that he shot Miller twice in the back as she pleaded for her life, and as she claimed (it turned out falsely) that she was pregnant.

    Adams made good his escape, but was captured by police a few days later. Both Miller and Adams had an extensive history of burglary, and police believe they may have previously broken into Greer’s home on three prior occasions, stealing cash and items.

    The police will, as is the norm, be submitting their investigate report to prosecutors, who will in turn make the decision whether to criminally charge Greer for Miller’s death.

    –-Andrew, @LawSelfDefense

    P.S. The newest Law of Self Defense University Video/Podcast has just been released:  “#004: The Intersection of Tactics and Law.” Enjoy!

    Andrew F. Branca is an MA lawyer and the author of the seminal book “The Law of Self Defense, 2nd Edition,” available at the Law of Self Defense blog (autographed copies available) and (paperback and Kindle). He holds many state-specific Law of Self Defense Seminars around the country, and produces free online self-defense law educational video- and podcasts at the Law of Self Defense University.


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    MouseTheLuckyDog | July 27, 2014 at 11:58 pm

    Which will be especially delicious of Greer gets off or isn’t charged.

    Richard Aubrey | July 28, 2014 at 9:19 am

    Many years ago in Detroit, a guy looked out his window and saw somebody trying to steal his, iirc,$500 beater which he had just purchased to get him to his new job. He’d been unemployed for some time. He fired out the window, killing the thief.
    Jury acquitted, presumably because, as citizens of Detroit they were, as well, burdened by such $$%%%^^&^ all day long. Depriving a man of his chance to help himself made the whole thing not about the law.
    Thing about criminals is, it’s not their job. They’re not following orders. They’re not acting out of innocent ignorance. They have decided that despoiling others is their right and F anybody who complains. Anybody who forgets that in laying out a case is making a mistake. Because the jury knows.

    The police can shoot fleeing felons if they fear death or GBI will result. I think their rap sheets are evidence of that, especially given the battery involved. Wasn’t there a case in California in the 70s where a black woman tracked down and shot her rapist?

    In any event, I would never vote to convict if I was no the jury. Serves them right.

    citizen868 | August 3, 2014 at 1:35 pm

    She deserved to die -. Plain and simple.
    And right! She was running away IE escaping Justice.
    The old man did civilization a favour and he has every right to brag about it adn openly talk about it. He sets a positive example for the civilized community.

    Anyone that wants to prosecute him is on the side of criminals and should be prosecuted themselves for abetting criminals.

    We need some kind of “fair game ” law for citizens dealing with crooks when we catch them in the act. That will help serve as a deterrent.
    Or that “hors de whatever”.
    The current laws protect the crooks and make the citizens their victims.

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