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    Fleeing scene and not calling police “made robust claim of self-defense very difficult”

    Fleeing scene and not calling police “made robust claim of self-defense very difficult”

    Andrew Branca discusses Loud Music Murder Trial on Teri O’Brien Show

    Sunday night I was a guest on the Teri O’Brien radio show to talk about the Michael Dunn “loud music” murder trial.

    If you missed the live broadcast, or even if you merely must have more of my dulcet tones, here you go:

    –Andrew, @LawSelfDefense

    Andrew F. Branca is an MA lawyer and the author of the seminal book “The Law of Self Defense, 2nd Edition,” available at the Law of Self Defense blog, (paperback and Kindle), Barnes & Noble (paperback and Nook), and elsewhere.


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    Great interview, Andrew! Thanks for posting this.

      Thanks to the Professor for hosting it!

      By the way, I’ll be on another radio show this afternoon, 3:35PM Boston time.

      This time it will be the Victoria Taft show on KOGO (AM600) in San Diego (, for streaming).

      Hopefully I’ll do a somewhat better job–thought of a couple of things I should have said, or at least said better, on Teri’s show. But I’ll have to be quick, I believe I’ll only have ~10 minutes of air time on this one.

      –Andrew, @LawSelfDefense

    Another good interview, Andrew. Loved the way you just brushed off Jesse. Right move when you have limited air time.

    After only a cursory review of the case, one thing stood out for me. Dunn resorted to a firearm, and fired on his attackers, allegedly because he was in fear of his life. Let’s grant that, arguendum. But then the attackers fled. He paused in his cadence of firing, then resumed fire on the fleeing attackers. This is when I believe it crossed the line to premeditated murder. “Those bastards are no longer a threat, but I’m going shoot their sorry arses.”

    It is always hard to justify shooting a fleeing person in the back.

    It’s a good thing he was a lousy shot.

      Actually, as someone who has done a fair bit of competitive shooting, I would suggest that Dunn was a very good shot, indeed. 10 shots, three bursts of fire each very rapid, 9 hits on target, including all of the three shots fired in the last burst at the fleeing SUV.

      Here’s the audio of the gunshots starting at about 00:30:

      Purportedly trained and qualified law enforcement officers rarely demonstrate similar proficiency under such circumstances.

      Granted the ranges were close for the first two bursts of fire, and he would have been working with a single action from the very first round, having cycled the gun to chamber a round in the first place.

      Still, it would seem the Dunn’s deficiencies, while apparently substantive, lie elsewhere than in his management of that Taurus pistol.

      –Andrew, @LawSelfDefense

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