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    Republican poll chasers and the madness of crowds

    Republican poll chasers and the madness of crowds

    Do what’s right, and worry about the polls closer to November 2014

    Another conversation I had with myself on Twitter.

    Last time it was about The Republican Brand.  This time it’s about the lunacy of Republicans — stoked by the media — panicking over polling last week showing Republicans dropping like a stone into a mountain crevice.

    Today Pew released its polling, and it found essentially no change in Republican favorability over the past year. Democrats poll better in terms of favorability, but that’s been the case for a long time.

    Republicans actually are in a slightly better position today than a year out from the 2010 Republican landslide, and are rated better in terms of handling the economy and running government.

    I don’t say Pew knows any better than the other pollsters, or vice versa, but that’s the point.  Do what’s right, and worry about the 2014 polls closer to November 2014.  For God’s sake, Republicans, stop acting like bouncing Super Balls based on the latest polling.

    First some Pew charts:

    Pew Party Favorability 10-15-2013 full

    Pew Mid Term Advantage 10-15-2013

    Pew More Extreme 10-15-2013

    Now my conversation with myself on Twitter:


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    Estragon | October 15, 2013 at 11:57 pm

    You can’t really say “pay no attention to all these polls – EXCEPT this one!”

    At least, not and retain any credibility. Of course, credibility doesn’t seem a high priority for proponents of this insanity.

    The ONLY salient point is that Obama and Reid have no incentive whatever to compromise as long as they are not being blamed more than Republicans in this fight, and there is NO poll showing any such thing.

    The midterms are far enough off there is time for changes in attitudes and history shows events closer to them are most likely to more directly influence the outcome. But that doesn’t mean there is anything to gain for anyone here – except the demagogues Cruz and Lee who have assembled millions of names for their fundraising databases with their phony “petitions” against 404Care. And Obama, who benefits from the change of subject from his all-encompassing and pervasive incompetence.

    He needed a gift. Cruz and his fans gave it to him.

    Hey so what happens if a default happens?

    I’m an engineer and I like to break shit that needs to be broken.

    When you’re this far in debt, it’s damn hard ignore the “broke” part. I think the word is called denial or delusional.

    Folks- it would be well advised to start thinking about what this looks like. If it can’t continue forever, it will stop… if not now, then at some point? It won’t be pretty.

    “Republican” is a dirty word to the liberals, leftists — and now conservatives.

    The GOP leadership are pariahs. Good riddance to them. Up with the Tea Party.

      Radegunda in reply to | October 16, 2013 at 3:14 am

      It’s been said repeatedly that many Republicans sat out the 2012 election because they weren’t excited to vote for Romney and didn’t see him as conservative enough. That may or may not be what happened in 2012; how would we know? Conservatives who believe it did happen then say it shows we need a more conservative candidate to win.

      Maybe so. But it’s understandable if the GOP leadership looks at the election results and concludes the opposite: that the electorate preferred returning a far-left Democrat to the White House. Allowing Democrats to win when you could have done your part to stop them is not a good way to prod the GOP to be more conservative.

        MarlaHughes in reply to Radegunda. | October 16, 2013 at 7:19 am

        Well said, Radegunda
        I voted for Mitt Romney because, after going through two other candidates, he ‘grew’ on me as the best candidate to counter Obama and the leftist agenda. His common sense solutions, considering how divided the electorate currently is, just made more sense as a way forward.
        And, after his defeat, watching fellow conservatives blame him (and me by proxy) for not being able to achieve the impossible without quite a few of them’s help is frustrating. So frustrating that I have withdrawn from most political commentary after being active in campaigns for decades. The loud mouths have the floor and refuse to give it up. We have a President StompyFoot competing for the headlines with Congressional MyWayOrTheHighway newbies.
        It’s important to remember that Boehner had and still has a high conservative rating among all but the most extreme rating agencies. He is also very politically savvy. All he needed to move the nation toward a more limited government was more support. We voted that support in and some of them immediately turned on him, and us, giving Obama and the left fodder and, more importantly, a wedge.
        Obama’s goal is to break the GOP completely and his method is divide and conquer. He has been open about it.
        Thanks again for expressing what is frustrating me greatly much better than I could.

          Henry Hawkins in reply to MarlaHughes. | October 16, 2013 at 9:21 am

          Romney is a former Democrat Party member, instituted Romneycare in Massachusetts, and ‘fought’ Obama in the general with a tenth of the energy he spent against primary opponents. The GOP establishment again picked a nice guy loser right out of the gate, just like with Bob Dole in ’96, and McCain in ’08. Anyone who refused to vote for Romney has absolutely nothing to apologize for.

    Bruce Hayden | October 16, 2013 at 8:15 am

    I understand the reason for the polls. The House is listening to their constituents, who are panicking about ObamaCare right now, and the Republicans there have to be given some cover from this so that they can vote the way that the DC power blocks want them too. It has always been a competition between the Washington establishment and the voters. The big problem right now for the former is that hundreds of billions of dollars every year are in jeopardy, since forcing the Senate to deal with budgets would force them back to a pre-Stimulus baseline. No wonder that that city is the one place that has flourished during the recession – everyone got their piece of the almost trillion dollars in additional spending – somewhere around 5% more of GDP now had to be filtered through all the grasping hands in DC.

    Henry Hawkins | October 16, 2013 at 9:25 am

    The poll in question, the NBC/WJ poll, sampled only random adults, not likely voters, and structured a +10 skew in favor of Democrats. Random adults = LIVs. Likely voter sampling is far more accurate. That such a poll is not reliable is Politics 101 known to even the lowest political intern.

    It is my contention that the establishment GOP seized on this worthless poll to justify what they wanted to do in the first place.

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