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    More boys than girls getting into elite NYC public schools … this must not stand

    More boys than girls getting into elite NYC public schools … this must not stand

    Boys are getting destroyed at just about every level of the educational spectrum relative to girls, and are keeping away from liberal arts colleges like they’re running from the grim reaper (which is not that bad an analogy considering the hard core feminist agenda at most liberal arts colleges).

    But boys still rule math and the hard sciences, and that is an abomination in the eyes of the educational PC police, via NY Times, Girls Excel in the Classroom but Lag in Entry to 8 Elite Schools in the City:

    In the United States, girls have outshined boys in high school for years, amassing more A’s, earning more diplomas and gliding more readily into college, where they rack up more degrees — whether at the bachelor’s, master’s or doctoral levels.

    STOP right there.  No one seems to be upset about boys falling behind.  But we continue …

    But that has not been the trend when it comes to one of the highest accomplishments a New York City student can achieve: winning a seat in one of the specialized high schools.

    At all eight of the schools that admit students based on an eighth-grade test, boys outnumber girls, sometimes emphatically.

    Boys make up nearly 60 percent of the largest and most renowned schools, Stuyvesant, the Bronx High School of Science and Brooklyn Tech, and as much as 67 percent at the High School for Mathematics, Science and Engineering at City College, according to city statistics.


    The fact that girls are underrepresented in New York’s top high schools, which tend to be focused on math and science, and which have more than a dozen Nobel laureates among their alumni, worries some academics who see the schools as prime breeding grounds for future scientists and engineers.

    Cart before horse.  Cause and effect.  If a girl can’t get into Bronx High School of Science based on objective test scores, what’s the likelihood she’ll be a Nobel Laureate?

    To Chester E. Finn Jr., president of the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, an education policy group, the gap at the elite schools could be as elemental as their perception as havens for science, technology, engineering or math, making them a natural magnet for boys, just as girls might gravitate to schools known for humanities.

    “I don’t think you’re looking at discrimination here,” said Mr. Finn ….


    Math is hard.  And it doesn’t discriminate.  Get over it.


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    In their rush to react, they rejected the inconvenience of nature, and selected nurture as the comfortable, emotionally appealing argument. Unfortunately, in the process, they also managed to denigrate the dignity of around half the human population. Actually, the whole human population. Each man and woman has a unique dignity, which guides (but does not determine) their development.

    Men and women have biologically motivated perspectives of our world. While the outcome is not universal, it is the rule for men and women. Our actions, motivations, and thereby capability are regulated by our perspective.

    The generational feminists have exploited an exceedingly shallow perspective and argument to support their cause. It’s astounding (and impressive) just how effective their simple judgment has been to distort our government, culture, and individual expectations.

    elliesmom | March 23, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    I went to engineering school and was very successful. Fewer than 10% of my fellow classmates were women, but we were all at the top or very near the top of our high school class. I think women think we have to be better students to go engineering school than men believe they have to be. A lot of “B” students succeed quite well in engineering school because the skill set needed to be an engineer is really quite different than the skill set needed to be an “A” student in the standard classroom setting. But it’s hard to convince a girl a “B” in algebra doesn’t rule out a career in engineering or the sciences.

    janitor | March 24, 2013 at 12:50 am

    Thank your for this post, professor.

    I think the multiculti crowd should stop having vapors over males dominating the sciences and maths, and do some hand-wringing over the fact that there aren’t “equal numbers” of females working on garbage trucks, or as auto mechanics, lumberjacks, sewer cleaners or tower climbers.

    Estragon | March 24, 2013 at 6:13 am

    Obviously we need some Firmative Akshin maths and sciences to even things out.

    After all, it worked so well for edjumacation.

    it is worse than you think- i have 2 sons- one a graduate of a highly rated E school- the other attending the same institution. When they were in high school they were interested in attending a summer enrichment program in engineering- but as white boys there were none in the state that would allow them in (a large east coast state). One attended a program at the Naval academy which had some engineering the other one had to go out of state to find a program. I don’t mind outreach to under represented groups, but at least throw a bone to interested white children as well. It was NOT a money issue, I was able to & eager to pay for a chance for them to learn more about engineering. Additionally, if you look at NSF awards for postgrad work in engineering you will see that a disproportionate amount of it going to women- I don’t think it is an accident nor merit based.

      Tortuga in reply to mlmc. | March 24, 2013 at 11:11 am

      Reverse discrimination has been and is, afact of life for working class white males . Luckily, where there is work to be done, it works in our favor.

        Reverse discrimination is a leftist lie. Invalid discrimination is invalid discrimination. Which individuals are getting the short end of the stick is irrelevant. When you describe some examples of invalid discrimination as “reverse discrimination” instead of just discrimination, you are helping the leftists who want us to see everything through the prisms of race, color, surname, sex, etc, etc, etc.

        If someone is invalidly discriminated against because he is a white guy, that isn’t “reverse discrimination,” but just discrimination period.

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