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    More boys than girls getting into elite NYC public schools … this must not stand

    More boys than girls getting into elite NYC public schools … this must not stand

    Boys are getting destroyed at just about every level of the educational spectrum relative to girls, and are keeping away from liberal arts colleges like they’re running from the grim reaper (which is not that bad an analogy considering the hard core feminist agenda at most liberal arts colleges).

    But boys still rule math and the hard sciences, and that is an abomination in the eyes of the educational PC police, via NY Times, Girls Excel in the Classroom but Lag in Entry to 8 Elite Schools in the City:

    In the United States, girls have outshined boys in high school for years, amassing more A’s, earning more diplomas and gliding more readily into college, where they rack up more degrees — whether at the bachelor’s, master’s or doctoral levels.

    STOP right there.  No one seems to be upset about boys falling behind.  But we continue …

    But that has not been the trend when it comes to one of the highest accomplishments a New York City student can achieve: winning a seat in one of the specialized high schools.

    At all eight of the schools that admit students based on an eighth-grade test, boys outnumber girls, sometimes emphatically.

    Boys make up nearly 60 percent of the largest and most renowned schools, Stuyvesant, the Bronx High School of Science and Brooklyn Tech, and as much as 67 percent at the High School for Mathematics, Science and Engineering at City College, according to city statistics.


    The fact that girls are underrepresented in New York’s top high schools, which tend to be focused on math and science, and which have more than a dozen Nobel laureates among their alumni, worries some academics who see the schools as prime breeding grounds for future scientists and engineers.

    Cart before horse.  Cause and effect.  If a girl can’t get into Bronx High School of Science based on objective test scores, what’s the likelihood she’ll be a Nobel Laureate?

    To Chester E. Finn Jr., president of the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, an education policy group, the gap at the elite schools could be as elemental as their perception as havens for science, technology, engineering or math, making them a natural magnet for boys, just as girls might gravitate to schools known for humanities.

    “I don’t think you’re looking at discrimination here,” said Mr. Finn ….


    Math is hard.  And it doesn’t discriminate.  Get over it.


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    Why no file a series of “disparate impact” law suites over boy’s poorer outcomes in high school. The way to overcome affirmative action is to, Alinsky style, make it apply to its politically incorrect victims.

    I can’t find the most recent hard numbers on admissions to Stuyvesant High School in NYC. It is one of the preeminent STEM high schools with competitive admission. That’s another “problem” for the AA lefties. Here are some percentages from a recent year:

    (wiki) the 2010 academic year, the student body was approximately 72.05% Asian and 23.55% Caucasian, 1.21% African American and 2.43% Hispanic.[6]

    The school has ~3000 students. For NYC residents only.

    So Asian males would really be problematical.

      Subotai Bahadur in reply to JAL. | March 24, 2013 at 1:13 pm

      Asian males are highly problematical for the Left. I’m a baby-boomer. My father immigrated to this country from China at the start of the Depression; alone, 12 years old, not speaking English. Given that Chinese were not legally human beings [literally] in this country until 1943; that pretty much defines disadvantaged. He learned English as a teen, worked his way up to a decent living, and in 1943 when we became human in the eyes of American law, he joined the Army and earned his citizenship with Patton’s Third Army.

      Before he died, he had owned and sold several businesses and was able to retire and fish for the last years of his life.

      I was lucky enough to be born here. As I was growing up, my dad told me that to get the same rewards as a white person, I had to work 3 times as hard. I encountered more than a little prejudice, and some physical violence [and two attempts to kill me], based on darker skin, epicanthic folds, and good grades. This peaked as I graduated high school, and mostly came from what would be considered rednecks today. The Left ignored us Chinese.

      As more Chinese students, from Taiwan and eventually the mainland, came over; suddenly being Chinese became fashionable. And the Left loved us, and expected us to be good sheep and hate whites. And it seemed that the “3x as hard” became easier. By the early 1990’s, suddenly we were enemies of the people according to the Left, because we were not part of the dependent class. And the descendents of those who forced me to carry a gun in high school in Nebraska suddenly developed an appreciation for achievers.

      Now, being an Asian male who achieves means that you are deliberately oppressing those who don’t, and must be punished. Being an Asian female achiever means you are on the cutting edge. In one generation we have gone from being hated by the far Right to being hated by the Left. All for the sin of actually working and achieving.

      Subotai Bahadur

    retrophoebia | March 24, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    Janet Hyde, cited in this article, was also addressed previously at this site: for making numerically absurd assertions about performance and potential gaps between boys and girls.

    At least, La Griffe put forward what I considered a convincing argument (continued from his last post on the matter).

    Goes to show that these popular misconceptions just don’t die, even in the face of evidence and facts.

    Milwaukee | March 24, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    Those of us who are of a certain age have heard the expression “Didn’t your mother ever teach you to come in out of the rain?” Dads teach kids stuff, like if something needs to be done and it is raining, put on a hat and get it done. Women and men are so wired differently in their perceptions of the world that it is hilarious.

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