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    Wisconsin Sikh Temple shooting (Open)

    Wisconsin Sikh Temple shooting (Open)

    There was a shooting at a Sikh Temple in Wisconsin this afternoon.  According to reports, seven people are dead,including the gunman, who was killed by police.

    At this time not a lot more details are known.  Please feel free to keep us updated in the comments.


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    kbob_in_katy | August 5, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    We must wait for the facts. So far, all we have are results. Like an algebra problem, there are many variables that can lead us to the result. Let us hope that sane people with cool heads are allowed to take charge and see what made this happen.

    May God, in his infinte mercy, take the innocent victims into his charge. And may the perpetrator, no matter his motive, background or condition, burn in the hottest part of hell for what he has done.

    Subotai Bahadur | August 5, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    1. It is the norm in this country for the Federal government to issue a statement that “There are no known ties to terrorism” literally the moment that the first news bulletins break. This will be repeated loudly as soon as there is the first indication that there is a Muslim involved. Too many examples to doubt it.

    2. The immediate statement that it was domestic terrorism is a marker that they have a non-Muslim perpetrator or patsy. Think Marinus Van der Lubbe as a possibility.

    3. I’m pretty sure if that is the case, that the TEA Party will be blamed. The US Army is already using them as their notational enemy in their written contingency plans when preparing for domestic activity:

    4. The fact that the Sikhs are freedom loving, capitalist, and closer to being Americans in outlook than any other people from the Indian subcontinent would make targeting them even more desirable for a provocation.

    Subotai Bahadur

    BannedbytheGuardian | August 5, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    I had a Sikh neighbour who hailed from The Punjab. One day I asked him what is what like to be a Sikh during the Golden temple Wars.-his father was an officer in the Indian Army.

    He said they knew very little of it as they did not have television.

    Even after the assassination of Indira Ghandi Sikhs were not blood libeled.

    Interesting if mass communications would make for a different outcome today in India.

      Squires in reply to BannedbytheGuardian. | August 5, 2012 at 11:35 pm

      After Indira’s assassination thousands of Sikhs were massacred by her political machine’s goons.

      I don’t know whether that resulted in any blood libel coming about amongst that particular part of the Hindu population, but I’ve generally gotten the impression that it’s not the case in the wider population. I’ve seen Hindus mentioning more then once how their parents taught them how the Sikhs had protected Hindus from forced conversion and mass slaughter at the hands of the Religion of Peace.

      As I noted in another comment above, I have heard ugly and thoroughly ignorant blood-libel against Sikhs come from the Muslim side of things. What can I say? Narcissists, and narcissistic ideologies, absolutely hate people who dare defend themselves, and must twist the truth to make their would-be victims the wrongdoers.

      Hence the inventing of garbage like: “Sikhs only cut their hair after they’ve killed a Muslim.”

        BannedbytheGuardian in reply to Squires. | August 6, 2012 at 12:44 am

        I am reporting this from my neighbour’s perspective. He saw no bad effects eg his father did not lose his job.

        Might be stuff happened elsewhere but not that he saw/experienced.

        Nice vegetarian food though.

          Squires in reply to BannedbytheGuardian. | August 6, 2012 at 3:49 am

          The pogrom occurred mostly in and around Delhi, IIRC, spurred on by leaders in Indira’s party (including, I believe her son). If he was in Punjab he would have been far from it.

          The irony is that she was the one who helped put the unstable separatist who seized the Golden Temple into power in the first place. She thought he was someone she could use as part of her own political machine.

    rduke305 | August 5, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    Oh Jeebus…here we go!! This nutball had 9/11 tattooed on his arm, multiple other tats, a shaved head, and reportedly a former member of the US Army…therefore he is a white supremacist (Even though, from what sketchy info I’m reading so far he wasn’t affiliated with ANYBODY)!!! Case closed. Sorry MSM, crazy is crazy, no matter your background. But as long as it fits the narrative, you’ll run with it.

    TrooperJohnSmith | August 5, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    Perspective: Every weekend, the shootings in Chicago add up to a massacre, often of Aurora proportions. Every weekend. Chicago. Proud home of the nation’s toughest gun laws!

    Every weekend.

    Stew on that, anti-gun hammerheads! 👿

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