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    Embarrassed and disgusted

    Embarrassed and disgusted

    by the behavior of numerous “conservatives” and “libertarians” on Twitter dancing on Herman Cain’s (presumed) political grave.

    Let’s sum up the “facts” as they are known right now.  Mostly unnamed people accused Herman Cain of unspecified conduct which some people who will not specify the people or the conduct have deemed “inappropriate.”  And one of the unnamed people received a piddly $35,000 severance package almost 15 years ago for unspecified conduct which included conduct unrelated to Cain.

    That’s what’s known now.  Maybe actual facts will come out proving that Cain did something wrong, but those facts are not out now.

    Insisting on actual facts before a major conservative politician is taken down is not “selling out our minds.”

    Cain has seriously messed up the situation and his campaign with an inconsistent response and a blame game, but does this justify the gloating and pure happiness being exhibited at the media feeding frenzy?

    We really are our own worst enemies.

    Update 11-3-2011:  Several commenters and Dan Riehl (Bill Jacobson Has A Logic Problem To Solve) argue that Herman Cain’s unproven accusations about the Perry campaign somehow are relevant to evaluating the accusations against Cain in the media.  I disagree, as that “illogically” simply tries to justify one wrong by pointing to another wrong.  Additionally, at least with Cain’s claim that the Perry campaign was behind the Politico story we know the accuser (Cain) and the substance of the accusation (a current Perry campaign adviser, Curt Anderson, used information he learned when he advised Cain’s senatorial campaign in 2004) which allows the Perry campaign to respond specifically (Anderson denies it).  As pointed out in the original post, Cain’s “blame game” has hurt him, and it is fair to criticize him for it, but that does not excuse the sheer exuberance with which many conservatives have jumped on the Politico bandwagon.


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    Though at this point all the charges seem small potatoes compared to what President Clinton clearly did and which the media did not deem relevant to his presidential duties.

    But Mark Block’s screaming about oppo from other campaigns and Cain’s trying to pin down the source of the leak (instead of deal with the allegations) don’t give a lot of hope about how President Cain will respond to criticism when in the White House.

    LukeHandCool | November 3, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    It’s been mere days. Let the facts come out. Talk about getting a rush in a rush to judgment.

    katiejane | November 3, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    Apparently many people think it acceptable to judge Cain and find him guilty of offenses yet detailed/proven or even claimed other than anonymously but still criticize Cain for blaming the Perry camp without what they feel is the necessary proof. Bottom line – Cain can be guilty without proof but Perry can’t be?

    I honestly don’t know what to think because I’ve yet to hear what the man actually did other than “he made her uncomfortable.”

      Owen J in reply to katiejane. | November 3, 2011 at 1:41 pm

      A review of the comments would seem to show that many people are giving Cain the benefit of the doubt on the sexual harrasment charges and critizing him for the unsubstantiated attack on Perry.

      Based on what is actually known at this point, both views would seem to be appropriate.

    […] ago, when while scanning Memeorandum, I chanced upon law professor William A. Jacobson’s post on the Cain kerfuffle*: Let’s sum up the “facts” as they are known right now.  Mostly unnamed people accused […]

    katiejane | November 3, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    If only that were true other places – seems like many sites have worked themselves into a lather over how unfair it is to blame Perry, etc. I guess if I were in the Cain campaign I might be inclined to consider that the camp competing for the same conservative voters could be the source of the negative stuff.

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