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    Dan Rather has documents

    Dan Rather has documents

    which prove that George W. Bush lied about his military service.

    History No. 1:  Dan cannot let you see the documents which he obtained from an anonymous source he cannot reveal.  But the documents, in Dan’s estimation, reflect “inappropriate” conduct the exact nature of which cannot be disclosed.  You can trust Dan. George W. Bush must drop out of the presidential race.

    History No. 2:  Dan lets you see the documents and identifies the source.  The documents and the accuser are subjected to vigorous scrutiny by guys in pajamas sitting in their parents’ basements.  George W. Bush is elected President.

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    Ah, Memory Lane! The Bush TANG “scandal” was amongst the stupidest distractions in American political history, which is of course saying quite a lot. W didn’t exactly make his service in the Air National Guard the centerpiece of his candidacy (unoike JFKerry, who did exactly that in regard to his 4 months in ‘Nam). Also, Bush was already president when this media frenzy was going on. You had to wonder, why is this even relevant? Then there’s the problem that although Bush supposedly got into TANG just to avoid combat in Indo-China, at the time he joined, those kinds of units WERE, in fact, being sent to Vietnam. Of course, it later turned out (if memory serves) that, by the time he was supposedly missing his last few ANG meetings or attending them in Alabama, essentially NOBODY was being sent to Vietnam. It was 1972 and the U.S. role in the war was winding down. All in all, even if the allegations against Bush had been true (which they weren’t, as evidenced by his Honorable Discharge, etc.), it would still have just been a big nothingburger.


     
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    Cowboy Curtis | November 3, 2011 at 11:47 am

    I’m getting an increasingly bad feeling about this Cain story. Its not any particular revelation, but something just doesn’t feel right. For whatever that’s worth.


       
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      Owen J in reply to Cowboy Curtis. | November 3, 2011 at 12:31 pm

      I have to agree. Though in my case, it is because there are many appropriate potential responses to this situation, and Cain used none of them — or, if that is too harsh, he failed to stick to one of them.

      The “Perry did it” thing followed by the “Rahm-Perry did it” thing almost comes across as a panic reaction. Why? Is Cain that easily spooked?

      This is not to imply Cain is acting panicky (if that’s what it is) becuase he has something to hide — he may just be acting that way because he’s losing control of the situation.

      Either way, that is not a good sign.


         
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        SmokeVanThorn in reply to Owen J. | November 3, 2011 at 12:35 pm

        Do you Perry lackeys have your own version of Journolist?


           
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          retire05 in reply to SmokeVanThorn. | November 3, 2011 at 12:44 pm

          So Smoke, if people can see, and admit, that Cain has handled this scandal very, VERY badly (going off on reporters yesterday didn’t help him) they have to be Perry lackeys?

          What about Mark Block who can’t even give a simple answer to questions posed to him by Bret Baier without reading them from a prepared script? You think that is handling the situtation?

          Newt is correct. Cain needs to stop trying to play the blame game and address this issue head on and Block saying Cain is not going to give the NRA permission to release the women from the confidentiality clause is NOT dealing with the issue head on.

          So what is your senario:

          Women lied.

          Cain told the truth.

          Perry (and now Emanual) lied.

          I guess that’s your story and you’re going to stick to it. But it ain’t gonna fly.


             
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            reliapundit in reply to retire05. | November 3, 2011 at 1:06 pm

            YUP.


             
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            SmokeVanThorn in reply to retire05. | November 3, 2011 at 11:08 pm

            No – your record as a Perry lackey is well established in your numerous comments on this site. The same is true of spartan and OwenJ.

            Your “handled it poorly” meme reflects either your failure to understand the game played by Politico, et al., or your willingness to play it too.

            Jeff Goldstein’s posts at proteinwisdom.com lay this out in more detail and far better than I can. If you and your ilk are more interested in promoting conservative values than a particular candidate, you will read Goldstein and think about what you and other “sensible” types are doing.


             
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            Cowboy Curtis in reply to retire05. | November 4, 2011 at 12:20 am

            Dude, he either did it or he didn’t. If he didn’t, it won’t hurt him. If he did, thank God we found out now.
            This isn’t a club, this is politics. And while I like Jeff and Rush both, they are wrong on this. Our candidates need to be examined, not just for their stated political philosophy, but for their viability. Anyone running against Obama is going to get pummeled in the press, with both true stories and false. I want to know what the true stories are beforehand, and I want proof of their ability to handle the fake ones as well. Because if you think this is dirty pool, wait till September rolls around.
            Ace pretty much sums up my feelings on this whole matter. I’m not buying this car until I’ve kicked the tires a bit:
            No, I’m Not Buying This Used Car Without Finding Out Its Carfax History, No Matter How Much You Try To Pressure Me


           
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          Cowboy Curtis in reply to SmokeVanThorn. | November 3, 2011 at 12:50 pm

          Its a newsletter.


           
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          The Libertarian in reply to SmokeVanThorn. | November 3, 2011 at 2:25 pm

          I donated money to Cain, so I’m no Perry lackey.

          It’s hard to imagine a candidate handling this thing any worse than Cain has. He didn’t remember he had two out of court settlements for sexual harassment? Please, even if they were both completely untrue, you’d remember *everything* about them.

          And blaming Perry, with not a single shred of evidence? That’s not just stupid, it’s not just reckless, it’s an unfounded assault against a rival. Cain now owes Perry an apology.

          Cain HAD to know this was coming. And yet he is completely unprepared for it.

          If he had half a brain he would have defused this a month ago by bringing it up in an interview so that HE could control the narrative (“As a front runner, I’m sure someone will mount a smear campaign based on two settlements the NRA reached way way back in 1998… I’m sure as a black man, the media won’t give me half the benefit of the doubt they gave Bill Clinton when he was groping Kathleen Willey in the Oval Office. Just look at what they did to Clarence Thomas…”)

          I like Cain and want to see him win, but his campaign staff is amateur hour.


             
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            spartan in reply to The Libertarian. | November 3, 2011 at 3:13 pm

            There is more common sense in your post than what Team Cain has generated since they first had knowledge of the Politico story. What you posted is exactly what Cain should have done. Well done!


           
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          Owen J in reply to SmokeVanThorn. | November 3, 2011 at 5:00 pm

          I think you are reading it. 🙂


         
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        Cowboy Curtis in reply to Owen J. | November 3, 2011 at 12:45 pm

        That’s sort of my line of thinking. I just can’t shake the feeling that several more shoes are going to drop. I keep thinking he and his campaign are hiding something. Or somethings.

        At the very least, their awful response gives me a lot of concern for how Team Cain would hold up under the scorched earth campaign Obama and the media have planned.


     
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    reliapundit | November 3, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR…

    HEH.

    […] JACOBSON TO POLITICO: Show Us Your Sources Or Shut Up! With a RatherGate reference. He’s absolutely right that you can’t trust MSM on […]


     
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    Cassandra Lite | November 3, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    I’d feel much better about the additional support Cain seems to be getting on affronted grounds if he was handling the crisis well. Accusing a rival without proof, and playing the race card, is no better–and is in some ways worse–than the original hit piece.

    Dear God, please don’t let us once again go deaf, dumb, and blind to a candidate’s ineptitude just because we’ve fallen in love.


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