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    Baker Boycott

    Baker Boycott

    I came across a story about a Christian baker in Iowa who is being boycotted for refusing to work with a gay couple.

    I love boycotts with a passion, regardless of which side I’m on. Commerce is meant to be a voluntary association where goods are exchanged. Oftentimes prices, competitors,  or quality factor into purchase decisions, but the phrase “value is subjective” is epitomized by a consumer who flexes a moral objection to the producers of a certain product.

    I didn’t feel particularly strongly about this article until I got to this line:

    The Iowa Civil Rights Act was amended in 2007 to include protections for sexual orientation. The couple told the television station they had not decided whether they would file a Civil Rights complaint against the baker.

    A spokesperson for the Iowa Civil Rights Commission declined to confirm or deny whether they’ve launched an investigation.

    Once again, the government obscures commerce.

    What good is a boycott in a land where commerce can’t be voluntary?


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    BarbaraS | November 16, 2011 at 4:56 pm

    What I don’t understand is why this issue came up in the first place. The baker is not required to interact with this couple probably any more than she already had done. Why is she bothered by their gayness? She’s just selling a cake. I did not know the baker was required to deliver the cake and/or attend the reception. Every wedding I know about the bridal couple had to go get the cake. This is self righteousness at its worse. However, I will say there is no such thing as bad publicity. This little known bakery is now pseudo famous.

      syn in reply to BarbaraS. | November 16, 2011 at 10:57 pm

      In the late 1990’s in NYC I would often come across a number of gay and lesbian bars, the gay bars were bothered with straight females coming in and the lesbian bars were bothered with straight males coming in.

      Once even two of my friends and I went to lesbian dance club. One of my friends is gay male, my other friend is straight male and I am a straight female.

      When we arrived at the door, the door-woman said that my gay male friend could enter, I could enter even though I am not a lesbian BUT my straight male friend COULD NOT ENTER.

      Obviously we had a clear case of sexual discrimination perpetuated by a lesbian business however instead of running off to the nearest Marxist Civil Equality Law Center, file a complain to demand the lesbian dance club be shut down for sexual discrimation we instead walked to another dance club.

      By the way, I have many gay friends and lost count of the number of gay businesses (mainly night clubs) which denied me (a straight female) entrance into their establishments.

      Why all those Gay were so bothered with Straightness, I’ll never know because I don’t care and don’t go to these establishments anymore.

    BarbaraS | November 16, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    Actually there are no good guys in ths mess. All acted childisly and retalitorily.

    You know, sir, I have long advocated to gay men that we should not antagonize heteros who can’t handle us yet; I have always endeavored to do avoid doing so — there are enough gay friendly businesses out there — we have a complete Pink Economy, I assure you. Yes, yet, some liberal gay folks keep this up — for they think this will help us — but it will not; I argue with them on sites you would never know existed. I would rather a “buycott” than a “boycott.” For gay folks, still pilloried regularly, and too few in numbers, simply can’t effect anything by boycotts. But we can show we are consumers with dollars, and perhaps change a mind through cooperation rather than confrontation.

    And I point out to my gay friends — Do Not Push This — for we will find that we gay men can’t enjoy our gay bars when scads of screaming heteros come in and demand service – to whom I rightly feel we should be allowed to refuse such service — and frankly, I have chased hetero couples out of gay bars — for it ruins the mood. And if “we” win — then we will lose — for you heteros will come in and destroy our little world — and we don’t have the numbers to stop you — and after we “win,” not even the law. Let me tell you, the look on hetero faces when I tell them “no hetero smooching in gay bars” is priceless.

    But please, stop trying to lump all gay men in to one group — that’s liberal group think — and realize many of us are conservatives and capitalists — just as not every hetero is a liberal too, as your fellows Pelosi and Kerry are. Thanks.

    And by the way, Professor Jacobson, I have been quiet on many hetero blogs for a few months — not because I have given up on our — yours and mine — principles — (and definitely not because I’m a troll or something worse) — but I thought I could be more effective on gay blogs — where you dare not tread — in bringing gay guys to our side — the liberty side. I only have so much time in a day — I take care of a fading WWII vet, and he requires ever more care.

    And I’m not unaware that many heteros such as you are, um, “gay perplexed” and I can live with that; I always have; though it got better — but I’m also aware that many gay guys are simply idiots — and they need my ministrations more than you do. And lo, these many months, there’s been a change — subtle, not complete, but still there — “Oh yah, maybe the Dems are screwing with us” all across the gay-blogs — perhaps I have had more success than you with hetero liberals — for gay men are swayed more by gay issues than they are by economic and legal issues, I assure you.

    I need economic sanity more than I need “marriage” by any name — but let me assure you — we are American taxpayers too — and this unholy “get rid of the gays” meme of some Republicans will not stand either. Not while I live and breathe.

    But remember this — whenever I hear people like Santorum and Bachmann and others blame us gay men for the unwed mothers and excess babies on the public dime — which they have done — I’m infuriated — for I don’t make no babies. We are not responsible for that problem — blame you heteros. Give us over to autism, and be done with us, and let my people go. Stop trying to blame gay folks. Thanks.

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