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    Victory and not victory

    Victory and not victory

    I was most interested in the discussion (starting around 3:15) about whether the debt deal was a victory:

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    huskers-for-palin | August 3, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Let me provide more of an insight to this discussion.

    My fiance (Mexican heritage, 2rd generation American) lives in Dallas and comes from a libertal, pro-Amnesty family. She’s in tune with the immigration/amnestry groups from her college days/community/family connections and has a good feel of the ground situation.

    The “vibe” on the street is that contray to what “Numbers USA” says is that Palin is supportive of Arizona-style laws, E-verify, denile of social services to illegals, voter ID bills, a strong border fence and a beefed up INS/board patrol.

    In their view, anything remotely considered friendly to illegals is just smoke and mirrors. She will not support amnesty but only standard legal channels. In essence, they believe that once in office she will “sour the milk” for illegals to operate in the US (self deport).

    In conservative Latino areas, she will do fine in the primaries/general but she won’t get squat in liberal areas.
    Such liberal areas would prefer Obama (or a Jeb Bush).

    I can concure to her findings, to some degree, from my days of living in El Paso.


     
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    rightwingyahoo | August 4, 2011 at 7:24 am

    Largely meaningless.

    The La-Raza types will be pleasantly surprised to find, (should Palin run and win) that she intends to pass immigration reform, legalize their status permanently in the US (according to her own words) and grant them the right to stay here indefinitely. By the time her proposed immigration reform makes it thru congress it will be well to the left of her already far too capitulationist starting position, anyway.

    And she knows that as well.

    The only conclusion is she’s not as conservative as many like to believe.

    Then, all the 15-18 million new legal residents have to do is file a lawsuit claiming unequal treatment before the law, (they were given the right to stay but not to vote or have any right of self determination, they will pose as the slaves of 1800s) and the judge(s) will likely find for them and order the Feds to place them on a path to citizenship.

    And that will be the ballgame, courtesy of the so-called conservative wing of the R party.

    Their vibe is wrong, Palin is an immigration squish and effectively an amnesty supporter.

    As such not fit to lead.


     
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    huskers-for-palin | August 5, 2011 at 12:59 am

    Gee, why not come on down their barrio and call them a liar while you’re at it.

    I’ll trust their word (and their networks of friends) over your stranger.

    Hope you can speak Spanish.


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