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    Thomas Sowell on Boehner Bill

    Thomas Sowell on Boehner Bill

    Making points similar to what I have made, this is not the last round.  The Boehner bill for all its flaws puts the runners on base with another batter up in a few months.

    The Boehner bill, assuming it passes the House today, likely will be rejected by the Senate.  That’s a scenario I like a lot more than never having passed the bill at all.  And if lightning struck and it was passed, or something very similar to it passed, then we have advanced the runners and we still are at bat.

    Via Real Clear Politics:

    Now that the Republicans seem to have gotten the Democrats off their higher taxes kick, the question is whether a minority of the House Republicans will refuse to pass the Boehner legislation that could lead to a deal that will spare the country a major economic disruption and spare the Republicans from losing the 2012 elections by being blamed – rightly or wrongly – for the disruptions.

    Is the Boehner legislation the best legislation possible? Of course not! You don’t get your heart’s desire when you control only one house of Congress and face a presidential veto.

    The most basic fact of life is that we can make our choices only among the alternatives actually available. It is not idealism to ignore the limits of one’s power. Nor is it selling out one’s principles to recognize those limits at a given time and place, and get the best deal possible under those conditions.

    That still leaves the option of working toward getting a better deal later, when the odds are more in your favor.


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    YourMaster | July 28, 2011 at 10:48 am

    >.> I dun think 0bama is going to be re-elected…. come 2012.

    1) All the GOP needs to do is press the cut cap and balance bill… into the senate. That’s the sole bill they should focus on…. send it to the Senate. and the Senate Democrats will either
    A) kill it
    B) pass it onto 0bama… and he’ll veto it, right?
    Well then…. that fixes it so… he or the democrats take the blame and the downfall for the country defaulting and the economy likely suffering a huge downturn.

    plus, raising taxes at the time of a default or huge downturn will harm the economy and job creation more
    voters will be rather vindictive to the democrats in 2012

    0bama will literally cause his own downfall if he veto’s it. the economy will be the biggest thing in 2012. it will be nearly impossible to blame republicans who tried to pass a debt bill. that either he or the senate killed.

      DougV in reply to YourMaster. | July 28, 2011 at 10:56 am

      The GOP did push the cut, cap and balance bill, and the Senate killed it. Voted to table it with no debate.

        Yep, and not a whimper from the GOP. THAT bill had a chance in the Senate and they should have at least forced a showdown on getting it to the floor for discussion and a vote.

        And Obama WILL get re-elected if Hillary doesn’t bump him and the GOP again insists on filling the winning Generic Republican space with a liberal Democrat. As we are witnessing the last few days, the same big government Republicans we voted out of control of Congress and the WH in 2006 and 2008 are STILL in control of the GOP and can’t wait to finish the job Bush/Obama started.

          William A. Jacobson in reply to Pasadena Phil. | July 28, 2011 at 11:26 am

          How exactly would they “force a showdown” on getting it to the floor when a majority of Senators voted to table it? Wasn’t that the showdown and didn’t they lose?

            Boehner, Cantor, and the rest of the Assistant Democrats could have make a big stink to make it the sticking point on any further discussion. That would exposed how broken the process is that the Senate won’t even consider for discussion the only plan that addresses the issues that are getting our credit rating downgraded.

            It’s about picking your battles. In a government that has run off of the constitutional rails, you pick your spots. We (Tea Party conservatives) are being attacked by the entire one-party system. This would have forced the corrupt establishment pols to prove otherwise.

            If we are learning one thing in this entire debacle, it is that there is no two-party system. Our government is at war with citizens to the point that even in this battle, both sides have agreed to negotiate secretly behind closed doors while privately signalling markets, banks and the media that it is all kabuki and so there will be no default.

            The best opportunity we had to keep the details of the only worthy plan was making this stink on CC&B in the Senate. But the Stupid Party again fumbled the ball over to the Democrats who are now running for the winning touchdown with the entire GOP establishment (are you part of that now?) blocking conservatives.

            This is why I am no longer a Republican. I’ve seen this movie too many times.

            WarEagle82 in reply to William A. Jacobson. | July 28, 2011 at 6:22 pm

            Can the House actually write language into a bill that would enable spending cuts and debt ceiling changes contingent upon either or both houses approving a BBA?

            I am not sure if or how that might be done. Short of that, I wouldn’t take Reid on his “word” to bring it to a vote on the Senate floor.

            But the current Boehner bill is a joke. The man doesn’t want to cut spending. His last two plans make that abundantly clear.

    johnnycab23513 | July 28, 2011 at 11:41 am

    I have been back and forth on this. Dr. Sowell has helped me make up my mind. A brillant man.

    MaggotAtBroadAndWall | July 28, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    No Runny Eggs has the “play-by-play” commentary (using NSFW language) on how the Republicans have screwed themselves at nearly every stage of the phony negotiations.

    Here’s another way that could have been tried to force the Senate to table, debate and vote on CC&B: pass it again in the House and resubmit it to the Senate with the arguments I made above. We are looking for a solution, not a deal. If you have something better, let’s see it and show the voters the details.

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