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    Mr. Reasonable versus Intrigue and Drama

    Mr. Reasonable versus Intrigue and Drama

    Obama just gave his speech on the status of the debt ceiling negotiations, and endorses some version of McConnell and Reid plans.  Calls Boehner bill something that will not become law because does not extend debt ceiling beyond election.

    Calls for “bipartisan compromise” and calls on people to “keep the pressure on Washington”

    “The time for putting party first is over.”  We will solve this problem despite “all the intrigue and all the drama taking place on Capitol Hill right now.”

    Instead of Obama versus the Boehner bill, it’s Obama versus Intrigue and Drama.

    The inability to move the Boehner bill forward yesterday  played right into his hands.

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    beloved2 | July 29, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Rick Perry on the debt ceiling and Washington drama
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwrP7g8_xg&feature=player_embedded

    What a contrast to the Obama hysteria of granny not getting her social security check on August 3.At the time of this video Governor Perry was recovering from illness and he still is more articulate, more charismatic, more HUMAN than the obot in the WH
    Run, Rick, run!

    As an avid chess player, I’m going to hold to Charles Krauthammer’s point about “playing the long game”…

    The ‘Debt Ceiling’ became a farce when we broke the $8 Trillion mark back in 2006 (Dem majority in both houses). We’ve already pushed passed the brink when our debt exceeded 90% of our current GDP. There is no more debt ceiling.

    We have NO leverage now as long as the Boehner’s Bill (which admittedly doesn’t fix anything but has the more strategic effect of putting B.O. and senate Dems on the defensive)….STAYs in the house because we are too busy calibrating our catapults (I’m purposely refraining from any modern weapons metaphor so as not to indulge any nutroots)

    Hurl the Boehner bill at Reid. Let Senate Dems and BO figure out how to put out this Greek Fire. Whether they reject or accept it…they lose. Reject = blamed for revised credit rating. Accept = blamed for adding to the debt.

    If we refuse to move with the tides of battle, we will not have the leverage to win the White House in 2012.


       
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      Nemo's omen in reply to Aucturian. | July 29, 2011 at 1:38 pm

      With media back-up, Reid has two good options upon receiving the Boehner bill:

      1. reject it and call out the unserious, radical Republicans for playing games with the debt ceiling. Dems win.

      2. amend it to his liking and own it. If the House rejects it, ideologue Republicans will be unwilling to “compromise” and Dems win. If it accepts it, Reid will have saved the day with the acceptable version. Thanks to the media, Dems win, the Tea Party is either dispirited or the GOP angrily splintered for 2012, and the Senate and maybe WH stay in the Democrats’ control next election.

      In either event, the country loses.


     
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    SmokeVanThorn | July 29, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    The Hinton Formula for Success – Do whatever the people who will never vote for you tell you to do.


     
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    john.frank | July 29, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    It is time that conservatives think like winners. Last November the American public gave Republicans a historic win in the House of Representatives.

    What was their mandate? Among other things, to bring deficit spending under control and to restore fiscal sanity in Washington.

    When you can not afford to pay your bills, so you are borrowing 40 cents for every dollar that you spend, and you have no plan to pay back what you already owe, where is the sense in the taxpayers allowing the Federal Government to increase its credit limit?

    The Cut, Cap and Balance Act of 2011, which passed the House with bi-partisan support set out a plan to restore fiscal sanity. Conservatives were prepared to support this proposal and agreed to lift the debt ceiling, providing Congress passed a balanced budget amendment.

    Under Boehner 3.0, to release the third tranche of the increase in the debt limit, in addition to Congress having to pass legislation, as scored by the CBO which will result in a minimum of 1.6 trillion in deficit reduction, that will address both the immediate and longer term fiscal imbalances, a “clean” balanced budget amendment (i.e. one that does not require a 2/3rds majority vote to raise taxes) must have been sent to the States for ratification.

    How was this achieved? Because a sufficient number of freshman representatives stood on principle, in the face of all kinds of threats, including the threat of being redistricted, so ultimately compelling the House leadership to move towards their position.

    Now we hear the complaint that this stand strengthened Obama’s hand? Sure, but let’s step back for a moment and look at the forest.

    The country is going broke. Congress has not passed a budget in 800 days. Spending is out of control. Every day we add roughly 4 billion dollars in debt to the tab.

    So, which is more important, working to develop a solution, or being afraid of giving your opponent a momentary and perceived tactical advantage, which he blew with his speech earlier today, becoming President twit.


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