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    Gun Laws

    I never paid much attention to gun laws.  Now that I’ve finished my NRA basic handgun course, I’ll start on what will be a very, very long process to get a hand gun permit.

    The laws are byzantine.  In New York State, where I live about half the year, I need a permit even to possess a handgun at home.  I cannot even shoot at a range using someone else’s gun (unless as part of training under the supervision of an NRA certified trainer).  The home possession permit process will take at least six months, maybe longer.  As to a concealed carry permit, I’ve been told to forget about it in Tompkins County (Ithaca).

    But of course, that leaves the other six months.  The Florida non-resident concealed carry permit, which is good in 32 states, is not good in NY or Rhode Island.  In Rhode Island (as far as I can tell with a quick check), I don’t need a permit to keep a gun at home or to transport it to a shooting range, but any other use, including transporting it in the car more generally, would require a permit for which I would need to show good cause and need.

    Getting from NY to RI requires that I also figure out Massachusetts law on the subject.

    Being the law-abiding citizen that I am, I’ll spend the time and money to figure out all the local and state laws, and comply with them all.  It will not be easy, and I can see how someone with good intentions still could run afoul of the law.  So maybe a year or so from now I’ll have all the permits in place. 

    Gun control advocates, of which I am one up to a point, can sleep soundly knowing that they have kept a gun out of my law-abiding hands.

    The criminals have it much easier. They just buy guns on the street and shoot ’em up:

    An Elmira man was wounded in a shooting early Saturday in Ithaca, police said.

    Russell Blackman was shot at least three times with a small-caliber firearm, Ithaca police said.

    Police said they responded to a report of gun shots around 1:40 a.m. at the 500 block of West Green Street, and found blood on the street and sidewalk. Police did not find Blackman, but they learned he had been taken in a private vehicle to Cayuga Medical Center.

    The guy who was shot himself is a fugitive from justice, and apparently he’s not talking about the shooter.  And I doubt he’s real worried about the gun laws.

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    Heck,
    Come to Florida! We are the "Gunshine State" though we don't allow open carry … yet!

    I visit a old high school friend, that now lives in South Dakota, annually for Pheasant Hunting. The gun laws out there are pretty lenient. As a result, he has quite the collection of Gander Mountain gun socks. Too many times he has driven back home, to visit family in WI, with his guns loaded (but not chambered) while hanging on the gun rack behind his head. Once he realizes this, he has to pull over at a border Gander Mountain and buy another gun sock to be legal in Wisconsin; shells removed from the gun as well. Since he doesn't need it back home, the gun socks always get cleaned out of the truck.

    He curses the laws and laughs at his stupid mistake every time.

    Now that I'm fully awake, here are the relevant areas of the following bullet diameters:

    9 mm: 64 mm^2 ( ".38" Special and .357 Magnum are 9.1 mm in diameter)
    10.2 mm: 82 mm^2 ( .40 S&W; )
    11.5 mm: 104 mm^2 ( .45 ACP )

    So .40 S&W; has a 22% improvement in area over 9 mm (generally worth it except for the price of ammo) and .45 ACP has a significant 39% advantage.

    In all cases, hollow points improve the area if they perform, for which there is no guarantee. E.g. in winter weather a thick enough jacket can fill the hollow and produce roughly full metal jacket (FMJ) level performance.

    With regard to New England states and gun laws, I think you'll find Vermont is rather unique. No permit system of any kind.

    http://www.atg.state.vt.us/issues/gun-laws.php

    While I think background checks at time of purchase are a reasonable concession, it should be contingent on any records of such a check that result in approval of purchase being destroyed immediately afterwards.

    Note that getting a Brady denial at time of purchase not only prevents that purchase, but means any other firearms you currently possess are prohibited, i.e. get them out of your possession while you appeal the denial. The denial is reported to law enforcement agencies for the purpose of seizing your currently possessed guns and charging you with illegal possession.

    And with regard to professoredwards comment on interstate travel through MA, a large caveat. The interstate "safe passage" provision requires that you be legally in possession and in compliance with both the origin and destination state gun laws. [18 USC 926A] So, as always, the answer is "it depends."


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